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Message #00045
Re: the Fridge LP mailing lists
We can do the contact form on the fridge without a code change. You
can see it under the Site Building category.
nick
On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 3:52 PM, Joey Stanford <joey@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I agree with all of your points. We've talked about them during the
> fridge code refresh.
>
> The problem I have today:
>
> 1) I do not have access to the system level of the fridge. Only Newz has that.
>
> 2) Newz is a bottleneck. He has enough work for 3 people (at least)
> and basically has no time to spend on the Fridge, even though I know
> he would like to help us out.
>
> Thus, any changes to the fridge MUST be done in the Drupal management
> system that we all have access to. I do not believe we have the
> capability to do what
> has been suggested.
>
> I have not attempted to gain access to the Fridge system. There is a
> remote possibility we could do that.
>
> Joey
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 1:38 PM, Jordan Mantha <mantha@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > /me crawls out from under a rock strangely shaped in the form of a
> > dissertation draft.
> >
> >
> > Joey Stanford wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I'd like to reopen the discussion of the Fridge and News Mailing lists
> > > now that LP mailing lists are out of beta.
> >
> > Please let's get something done here. Having 2 emails for everything is
> > getting a bit annoying, there are more pressing matters IMO, and I think
> > it's time we just did something rather than bikeshedding.
> >
> >
> > > To rehash:
> > >
> > > 1) We want one list where folks can send news items to that services
> > > the Fridge, UWN, and other areas (e.g. Full Circle).
> > > * There's a LP team for this https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-news
> > > which can have it's own mailing list however only team members can
> > > post.
> > > * We had wanted a list where anyone can submit articles.
> >
> > Does it really make sense to make it a mailing list? Mailing lists in
> > general are designed around two-way communication whereas almost all of
> > the new submission work would be one-way (i.e. submitter files a
> > submission). Mailing lists are also not the natural form of website
> > submissions. Generally submissions happen via a form on the site itself.
> > I can't help but think that we're compensating for a flaw in Fridge's
> > design/implementation. News and event submissions should be handled via
> > Fridge and/or other relevant sites. However, there is much to be said
> > about having a central place for news submissions to go. An article
> > submitted to Fridge may be more appropriate for UWN or Full Circle. So I
> > see three practical solutions:
> >
> > 1) Have a contact form on Fridge for submissions that then goes into a
> > queue for editors to look at. Everything is handled entirely within
> > Fridge. No mailing lists.
> >
> > 2) Have a contact form on Fridge (and other news sites) that sends the
> > submission as an email to an ubuntu-news mailing list. This list is not
> > open and is just a repository of news submissions.
> >
> > 3) Run Fridge digg/slashdot style where people are contributing
> > content and the editors are just trying to manage the chaos. No mailing
> > list necessary here.
> >
> > The basic requirements I see for "good" solutions:
> > * The submitter never should have to interact with a mailing list
> > * Where possible the submitter should interact with Fridge rather than
> > external resources. The idea being that you should be submitting stuff
> > where you would be reading it.
> > * Does not bottleneck the news process. News gets outdated really
> > quickly (sometimes within hours) so the slowest step should actually be
> > in the content creation, not the mechanics of getting submitted material
> > on the site.
> >
> >
> > > 2) I want to shutdown fridge-devel (which is private but I don't
> > > recognize several of the subscribers) for fridge editor discussions
> > > and use the LP list (ubuntu-fridge) for all editor discussions.
> > > ubuntu-fridge discussions can be viewed by the public however posting
> > > is restricted to team members.. This list is driven by our LP team:
> > > https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-fridge which will (in 2-3 months) also
> > > drive ACL access on the fridge itself. So, I'd like to center
> > > everything around it. It makes administration of our team much easier.
> >
> > +1 I think it should be ok for everybody to use, including Vid, which is
> > important.
> >
> >
> > > I think executing #2 above is dependent upon finding a solution for
> > > #1. A proposal for #1 was submitted as
> > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuNews
> >
> > I like the goal of the UbuntuNews spec but somehow it just feels like a
> > workaround for not being able to submit content directly through Fridge
> > (and other news sites). I feel like a good compromise would be solution
> > 2) that I outlined above where the ubuntu-new-submissions list (and it
> > shouldn't be a LP list) would be hijacked to only take content submitted
> > via Fridge and other news sites.
> >
> > Am I being too ambitious here?
> >
> > -Jordan
> >
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