Re: [Ubuntugnome-qa] Bug 1228765

[Tim <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On 03/01/14 04:06, Daniel Espinosa wrote:

In most yes.

But that means that will be a version for Ubuntu GNOME and for Ubuntu. I mean, Ubuntu GNOME will ship 3.10 g-s and Ubuntu 3.8 if this is not fixed by Ubuntu Developers?

As an official flavour we must use the official Ubuntu Repositories. i.e. we can't seed PPA packages on the ISO's etc.
gnome-desktop3 is a fairly core package and the same package is shared by most flavours, so we can't just go and break it for everyone else.

All work is focused on GNOME 3.10 for trusty rigth? No 3.11 on the road. Could be very useful to know what about this.

May be center Ubuntu GNOME on 3.12 to sync with GNOME release and provide lastest features and port to Wayland.

As per normal, 3.12 will be available on the PPA's

I can see Ubutu goes in different way from GNOME and this makes Ubuntu GNOME lacks lastest features and ports to Wayland/systemd.

Have you considered to delay Ubuntu GNOME 14.04 until GNOME 3.12 is ready to ship? Like Fedora does (2 moths later).

Obviously we can't change the release date and really that fact the two releases are so close together is part of the reason that Ubuntu itself has decided to stay one cycle behind.

However this also has some benefits for us:
  - GNOME tend to break things late in the release cycle, particularly involving integration with other DE's, its a pain trying to rush around fixing these late in our cycle.
  - Integration issues can be planned for from the start of the cycle.
  - We get far more testing. There are probably 2000 people running saucy + gnome3-staging PPA, im pretty sure there are far less people running Trusty (atleast while we are early in the cycle). This allows us to find and fix many bugs before we even upload to the main archives.
 - This results in our official release being far more stable than for example rushing a largely untested 3.12 into trusty.

I'm not a DEB packager but may try to help as I can (even testing) in order to help ship 3.12 as soon as possible.

In general the latest GNOME release will be available in the PPA's for those that want the latest and greatest

El jue, 2 de ene 2014 a las 10:31 , Ali Linx (amjjawad) <amjjawad@xxxxxxxxx> escribió:

On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 8:12 PM, Daniel Espinosa <esodan@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

What about LP: #1228765, is this realy necesary to depend on this for Ubuntu GNOME, while no Unity is installed and then no conflics here?

El jue, 2 de ene 2014 a las 4:14 , Ali Linx (amjjawad) <amjjawad@xxxxxxxxx> escribió:

Hi everyone,

FYI:

On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 5:20 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) <amjjawad@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi everyone,

In case you haven't yet noticed, I have taken the time yesterday to work on many things (think, plan, write, etc) and I am done of many Blueprints (2 left though because I felt so tired and couldn't carry on) and to summarize all that, I registered new one under the name of:

https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntugnome-brainstorming/+spec/ubuntugnome-trusty-tahr-roadmap

This blueprint has ALL the other 6 blueprints and each are linked, etc. So, you should not be lost whenever you have a look :)

I am done with:
https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntugnome-brainstorming/+spec/artwork-roadmap

https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntugnome-brainstorming/+spec/communications-roadmap

https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntugnome-brainstorming/+spec/doc-wiki-roadmap

https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntugnome-brainstorming/+spec/qa-roadmap

I also have worked on other blueprints more or less related to the above ones.

In order to move forward, you are required, please, to have a read at these and vote as explained.

HOWTO Do that?
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/Brainstorming
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/Brainstorming#How_To_Edit_The_Whiteboard_on_Blueprints

Each blueprint has detailed explanation :)
So, even if this is your very first time on Launchpad, you still should be good. If you are still in doubt, just ask. All what you need to do is a Launchpad account :)

 

I do hope before 1-1-2014 we are done from this. I maybe asking for too much but I am afraid we have no much time left.

Today, is 2nd of Jan, 2014 and the deadline for discussion is over :)

 

I still do need to steal sometime from my real life time for the other two blueprints.

@Tim
I will need your help for:
https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntugnome-brainstorming/+spec/packaging-roadmap

For the 4 blueprints I edited, I did my best to keep the suggestions as simple and short as possible. So, the Max I had to go was 5 suggestions for one and the rest have 4.

Since you are the developer, I believe you will be able to edit the noted blueprint better :)

@Everyone
Please, DO NOT reply the email with your vote, please do edit the White board as explained.

Thank you!

P.S.

The ones in red color are the ones you need to review and vote on :)

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Today, will be dedicated to review each and very blueprint and finish all the pending paper work, etc.

We need to understand that the planning stage is 'too' late for now. We 'must' be in the 'implementation' stage now.

Thank you!

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Hi,

Thank you for your email :)

Kindly note:

1- Please, do not hit reply to all and send emails to sub-teams you are not subscribed to :) you need to check to whom this email was sent. It was sent to each and every sub-team for Ubuntu GNOME. Sending emails to Launchpad Teams without being a member of these team will involved manual approve/decline action from the admins of these team.

2- From this link: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/ContactUs#Mailing_List

Please have a read at: http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/mailing-lists

As for:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1228765

This has been marked as High for Ubuntu GNOME and Tim, our Technical Lead is aware of that bug. It seems a nasty one.

Does this comment answer your question?
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1228765/comments/1

Thank you!

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