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["Mario H. Burgos" <mario@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Kevin,

Totally agree on the Gnome distinction for the two terms: +1


Mario Burgos


On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Kevin Godby <godbyk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hello.
>
> The GNOME Documentation Style Guide mentions both terms.
> <
> http://developer.gnome.org/gdp-style-guide/2.32/gdp-style-guide.html#gnome-glossary-user-actions
> >
>
> “Click-and-hold” means to press and hold the left mouse button on an
> item.  Example: “Click-and-hold the left mouse button to initiate the
> capture area.”
>
> “Drag” means to click a mouse button on an object, hold the mouse
> button, and move the mouse to move the object.  Example: “Drag the
> launcher to the panel.”  They also note that you should avoid using
> the term “drag and drop.”
>
> I would suggest using the term “click-and-hold” when
> clicking-and-holding itself causes something to happen (e.g., a menu
> to appear or more paint sprayed on the canvas) and using “drag” when
> you're actually dragging an item from one location to another
> location.
>
> Does that help any?  (If everyone is generally happy with that sort of
> distinction, I can add it to the style guide. If not, we can discuss
> it a bit more.)
>
> --Kevin
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Hannie Dumoleyn
> <lafeber-dumoleyn2@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Hi Paddy,
> > That is a good question.
> > In the following examples:
> > =========
> > To move a tab to a different location on the tab bar, drag it there using
> > your
> > mouse. Click-and-hold on the tab and drag the tab to a new place on the
> tab
> > bar.
> > To move a tab from one Firefox window to another already open win-
> > dow, click-and-hold on the tab and drag it to the tab bar on the other
> Fire-
> > fox window.
> > ========
> > I think the click-and-hold is right, because it explains that you first
> have
> > to click on the tab and hold down the mouse button, then drag it to its
> > destination. Beginners do not always know that dragging means you have to
> > click-and-hold first.
> > I send this question and answer to the mailing list, because I want to
> know
> > what others think about this.
> > Hannie
> > P.s.: if you join our channel #ubuntu-manual every once in a while, you
> can
> > ask this kind of questions directly.
> >
> > Op 11-06-12 14:35, Paddy Landau schreef:
> >
> >
> >
> > A few times, I have seen the phrasing "click-and-hold" when talking about
> > dragging something.
> >
> > Shouldn't we use "drag" rather than "click-and-hold"? It is an old,
> > well-used phrase in Windows, Mac and Linux. It also applies to
> > touch-screens, where "click" does not make sense.
> >
> > In like fashion, I have tended to replace "click" with "select" where
> > appropriate.
> >
> > Paddy
> >
> >
> >
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