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I will add some remarks between the lines: Op 11-06-12 20:01, Kevin Godby schreef:
Hello. The GNOME Documentation Style Guide mentions both terms. <http://developer.gnome.org/gdp-style-guide/2.32/gdp-style-guide.html#gnome-glossary-user-actions>
Very useful documentation
“Click-and-hold” means to press and hold the left mouse button on an item. Example: “Click-and-hold the left mouse button to initiate the capture area.” “Drag” means to click a mouse button on an object, hold the mouse button, and move the mouse to move the object. Example: “Drag the launcher to the panel.” They also note that you should avoid using the term “drag and drop.” I would suggest using the term “click-and-hold” when clicking-and-holding itself causes something to happen (e.g., a menu to appear or more paint sprayed on the canvas) and using “drag” when you're actually dragging an item from one location to another location.
imho, to make a menu appear you just click (not hold).If drag means "To click a mouse button on an object, hold the mouse button, and move the mouse to move the object", then it is superfluous to use it in combination with "click-and-hold" unless you want to explain to beginners step-by-step what to do, like in the examples mentioned below (Click-and-hold on the tab and drag the tab to a new place).
It does help to discuss things like this (thanks, Paddy) via the mailing list. Once we have come to a certain conclusion it can be added to the style guide. At Ubuntu Dutch Translators we do this too, and it works.Does that help any? (If everyone is generally happy with that sort of distinction, I can add it to the style guide. If not, we can discuss it a bit more.)
Hannie
--Kevin On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Hannie Dumoleyn <lafeber-dumoleyn2@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:Hi Paddy, That is a good question. In the following examples: ========= To move a tab to a different location on the tab bar, drag it there using your mouse. Click-and-hold on the tab and drag the tab to a new place on the tab bar. To move a tab from one Firefox window to another already open win- dow, click-and-hold on the tab and drag it to the tab bar on the other Fire- fox window. ======== I think the click-and-hold is right, because it explains that you first have to click on the tab and hold down the mouse button, then drag it to its destination. Beginners do not always know that dragging means you have to click-and-hold first. I send this question and answer to the mailing list, because I want to know what others think about this. Hannie P.s.: if you join our channel #ubuntu-manual every once in a while, you can ask this kind of questions directly. Op 11-06-12 14:35, Paddy Landau schreef: A few times, I have seen the phrasing "click-and-hold" when talking about dragging something. Shouldn't we use "drag" rather than "click-and-hold"? It is an old, well-used phrase in Windows, Mac and Linux. It also applies to touch-screens, where "click" does not make sense. In like fashion, I have tended to replace "click" with "select" where appropriate. Paddy _______________________________________________ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-manual Post to : ubuntu-manual@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-manual More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
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