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Re: Nautilus 3.6


Perhaps you could mention the existence of PPAs with a marginnote saying that it is beyond the scope of this manual.

About other desktop environments and shells:
Other DEs are mentioned in "Learning More" - Alternative interfaces.
Personally, I think this is sufficient information for this guide.
But I do think we should mention Gnome shell as an official Ubuntu flavour in our Raring version. Should I add it to "Learning more"?

*U**buntu GNOME <http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/prefer-gnome-shell-download-ubuntu.html>, *an Ubuntu-based Linux distribution that ships with GNOME Shell by default along with other GNOME applications that aren't available by default in Ubuntu, is now an official Ubuntu flavour (starting with 13.04).

Op 15-03-13 21:00, Patrick Dickey schreef:
If nothing else, I could expand the "Advanced Topics" chapter a bit, to
include adding PPA's and making changes like that. With the obvious
warnings that it's not a recommended or supported approach. And I could
use the adding a PPA to get this back as an example of how to do it.

On a slightly related note, I just thought about adding information
about changing desktops to the Advanced Topics section as well (adding
Lubuntu, Edubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, etc). Although this might create a
hassle, since people won't know where to look for information specific
to those desktops.

Have a great day.:)

On Fri, 2013-03-15 at 16:59 +0100, Hannie Dumoleyn wrote:
Op 15-03-13 12:09, Vibhav Pant schreef:

Getting Nautilus 3.4 back would certainly involve using PPAs which
doesn't sound good. AskUbuntu, #ubuntu on irc and the Ubuntu Forums
expect users *not* to use PPAs if they want help,so we should not be
adding a special section.

That sounds patronizing to me ): But I agree it would not be such a
good idea to let beginners install from PPAs.

On IRC Kevin wrote (and Carsten agrees):
hannie: Since the manual is primarily for people just starting to use
Ubuntu, I think it'd be too confusing to say, 'Here's how the file
manager works. But this one stinks and you should install this other
one instead.'  I think we're better off just documenting the default
file manager.
Ok, that means I will have some (re)writing to do on Nautilus.
PS: I don't remember the reason why they were removed, but GNOME had
some reasons for it.
I got the information from omgubuntu.uk. This could be the reason:

Now, in all fairness, the removal of this feature makes sense… in
GNOME-Shell. There Nautilus isn’t used to ‘handle the desktop’.

But the removal doesn’t take into account the many LInux
distributions, which includes Ubuntu, that are built upon GNOME but
following its touch-centric and pared back GNOME OS design vision.

On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 3:41 PM, Hannie Dumoleyn
<lafeber-dumoleyn2@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
         To all,
         It looks as if the file manager used in Raring will be
         "Files". I am not happy with this at all. Since I am
         responsible for the Nautilus section I wonder if I should
         write a special section on how to get Nautilus 3.4 back in
         Look at the following list of features that have been
Nautilus 3.6 (now called Files)
         Amongst the features you will find missing in the version of
         Nautilus (now renamed ‘Files’) are ones you may have used on
         a daily basis, including:
* Compact View removed * ‘Type Ahead Find’ removed * ‘New file’ templates removed * Application Menu removed * ‘Go’ menu removed * F3 split screen removed * ‘tree’ view removed * Bookmark menu items removed * Backspace shortcut to return to parent folder
I wonder what you think about this.