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[Hannie Dumoleyn <lafeber-dumoleyn2@xxxxxxxxx>]

Perhaps you could mention the existence of PPAs with a marginnote saying 
that it is beyond the scope of this manual.

About other desktop environments and shells:
Other DEs are mentioned in "Learning More" - Alternative interfaces.
Personally, I think this is sufficient information for this guide.
But I do think we should mention Gnome shell as an official Ubuntu 
flavour in our Raring version. Should I add it to "Learning more"?

*U**buntu GNOME 
<http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/prefer-gnome-shell-download-ubuntu.html>, *an 
Ubuntu-based Linux distribution that ships with GNOME Shell by default 
along with other GNOME applications that aren't available by default in 
Ubuntu, is now an official Ubuntu flavour (starting with 13.04).
Hannie


Op 15-03-13 21:00, Patrick Dickey schreef:
> If nothing else, I could expand the "Advanced Topics" chapter a bit, to
> include adding PPA's and making changes like that. With the obvious
> warnings that it's not a recommended or supported approach. And I could
> use the adding a PPA to get this back as an example of how to do it.
>
> On a slightly related note, I just thought about adding information
> about changing desktops to the Advanced Topics section as well (adding
> Lubuntu, Edubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, etc). Although this might create a
> hassle, since people won't know where to look for information specific
> to those desktops.
>
> Have a great day.:)
> Patrick.
>
> On Fri, 2013-03-15 at 16:59 +0100, Hannie Dumoleyn wrote:
> > Op 15-03-13 12:09, Vibhav Pant schreef:
> >
> > > Getting Nautilus 3.4 back would certainly involve using PPAs which
> > > doesn't sound good. AskUbuntu, #ubuntu on irc and the Ubuntu Forums
> > > expect users *not* to use PPAs if they want help,so we should not be
> > > adding a special section.
> > That sounds patronizing to me ): But I agree it would not be such a
> > good idea to let beginners install from PPAs.
> >
> > On IRC Kevin wrote (and Carsten agrees):
> > hannie: Since the manual is primarily for people just starting to use
> > Ubuntu, I think it'd be too confusing to say, 'Here's how the file
> > manager works. But this one stinks and you should install this other
> > one instead.'  I think we're better off just documenting the default
> > file manager.
> > Ok, that means I will have some (re)writing to do on Nautilus.
> > Hannie
> > > PS: I don't remember the reason why they were removed, but GNOME had
> > > some reasons for it.
> > I got the information from omgubuntu.uk. This could be the reason:
> >
> >
> > Now, in all fairness, the removal of this feature makes sense… in
> > GNOME-Shell. There Nautilus isn’t used to ‘handle the desktop’.
> >
> > But the removal doesn’t take into account the many LInux
> > distributions, which includes Ubuntu, that are built upon GNOME but
> > following its touch-centric and pared back GNOME OS design vision.
> >
> > > On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 3:41 PM, Hannie Dumoleyn
> > > <lafeber-dumoleyn2@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >          To all,
> > >          It looks as if the file manager used in Raring will be
> > >          "Files". I am not happy with this at all. Since I am
> > >          responsible for the Nautilus section I wonder if I should
> > >          write a special section on how to get Nautilus 3.4 back in
> > >          Raring.
> > >          Look at the following list of features that have been
> > >          removed:
> > >          
> > >          
> > >          
> > >          Nautilus 3.6 (now called Files)
> > >          Amongst the features you will find missing in the version of
> > >          Nautilus (now renamed ‘Files’) are ones you may have used on
> > >          a daily basis, including:
> > >          
> > >                * Compact View removed
> > >                  
> > >                * ‘Type Ahead Find’ removed
> > >                  
> > >                * ‘New file’ templates removed
> > >                  
> > >                * Application Menu removed
> > >                  
> > >                * ‘Go’ menu removed
> > >                  
> > >                * F3 split screen removed
> > >                  
> > >                * ‘tree’ view removed
> > >                  
> > >                * Bookmark menu items removed
> > >                  
> > >                * Backspace shortcut to return to parent folder
> > >                  removed
> > >                  
> > >          
> > >          I wonder what you think about this.
> > >          Regards,
> > >          Hannie
> > >          
> > >          
> > >