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[Thomas Corwin <dog1489@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

That excerpt could potentially go into the Advanced Topic Chapter. It could go into the "Introduction to the terminal", right after "What is the terminal?". It would be titled: "Comparing Terminals". (Just a thought)

Have a good night!
Thomas Corwin 

On Mar 19, 2013, at 7:21 PM, "Patrick Dickey" <pdickeybeta@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> I think the goal is to make it as seamless of a transition for Windows
> and Mac users as possible. Which means they have to "dumb it down"
> enough for the user to feel comfortable. Kind of like crawling before
> you walk, so to speak. The real power behind Linux has always been the
> command line (IMHO), and that's what separates it from Windows/Mac.
> Mainly this is because Microsoft (and I'm guessing Apple as well) have
> removed features from the command line. My impression is they did it
> because the features were dangerous, and they wanted to make sure the
> user did it through a GUI, where they could control it's use. If you
> look at DOS 5.x, DOS 6.x, Windows 95/98, and Windows XP (check the
> options available in the Windows directories as opposed to what's
> available on the DOS disks), you'll see how they removed some of the
> power or at least hid it.
> 
> I'm not sure where in the manual that would fit (if it would at all),
> but it could be something to add in the comparison between Ubuntu and
> Windows. Ubuntu is a great place for people to dip their feet in, so to
> speak. I've got a Fedora installation, but honestly haven't paid
> attention to how Files handles things there, as I typically use the
> right click copy/cut/paste out of box. Next time I boot into it, I'll
> have to check all of these things out there.
> 
> I think the most important thing is that we don't let our feelings
> towards what Canonical has done with Ubuntu make it into the manual
> itself. Otherwise, we risk turning people off to Linux, and we
> definitely risk turning people away from the manual.
> 
> Have a great day.:)
> Patrick.
> 
> On Tue, 2013-03-19 at 20:18 +0100, John Cave wrote: 
>> To be honest I'm not really a fan of Ubuntu any longer - everything has
>> been dumbed down so all you have to do is type what you want to do. I
>> don't like it. Leave apple to do that, I say. I'm not a fan of Fuduntu
>> for ease of use and Sabayon for hard-coreness.
>> 
>> I say bring back the thinking that a user has a brain!
>> John Cave
>> 
>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013, at 10:07 AM, Hannie Dumoleyn wrote:
>>> Using  and describing Files (formerly Nautilus) is a real struggle. The 
>>> menu bar now only contains the menu "Files". Other menus like Edit, 
>>> View, Go, Bookmarks and Help, which could be found in the menu bar in 
>>> Nautilus 3.4, are now placed on the toolbar in two dropdown menus: View 
>>> options and Location options. And the only way to Copy/Move is by 
>>> right-clicking on a file or folder.
>>> I find it far less useful (eg. no more F3), and not very logical. I have 
>>> changed the section on the file manager to describe the new situation, 
>>> but I am far from happy with it. I hope users will get a better file 
>>> manager in future versions of Ubuntu.
>>> Sorry for my moaning, just felt like sharing this with you :(
>>> Hannie
>>> 
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