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[David Jordan <djordan2@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Novacut has been working on something like this for a while now to make
collaborative video editing seemless, and we would love it if real-time
sync capabilities were integrated with Ubuntu One.  I'll write up more
later, but the gist is that each client app takes its state from a database
that is synchronized in real time, so that when you make a change in one
client, the changes are replicated through the database and all the other
clients can see that change.  So far this has been very effective for our
use and seems like it might fit the bill for many other cases.
David Jordan

On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 7:37 PM, Matt Fischer <matthew.fischer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> wrote:

> Microsoft is already pushing this concept in Windows 8. They called it
> "creating experiences that span devices".  The Win8 API will include a
> way to save settings which will then be background sync'd to the cloud,
> where each app on your system gets 30k free for storage, for things like
> where you left off in a video or font settings.  Of course all that
> requires Windows Live integration, but theres no reason we couldn't do
> something similar using Ubuntu One.
>
> If we're planning to have an ecosystem of devices (TVs, tablets,
> laptops, phones), then I agree that this is a great user experience and
> may even become expected by users.
>
> The key for implementing this is making it seamless for app developers
> to use.
>
>
>
> On Sun, 2011-11-20 at 00:20 +0000, Callum Saunders wrote:
> > Ok i have completely messed up trying to manage mailing lists in
> > Gmail. Ive sent this to the wrong place twice, third time's the charm:
> >
> > I like the idea of if you're watching something on TV you can,
> > providing they are using the same account, continue watching what you
> > were watching on you're tablet, phone or laptop. That would be really
> > handy if you had to go out or do something.
> >
> > Joshua Topolsky wrote an editorial on Engadget about similiar
> > behaviour, he called it the 'continous client', it is really worth a
> > read and is incredibly relevant
> > -
> http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/26/a-modest-proposal-the-continuous-client/
> .
> >
> > The Trillian IM app implemented this and it was great, you could be
> > having a conversation on a mac and then when you pick up your mobile,
> > further messages are delivered there instead and you can continue your
> > convo seemlessly on the go.
> >
> > This kind of behaviour between TV's, Phones, Tablets, Laptops & Cars
> > would be amazing, and a fantastic selling point.
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 4:49 PM, Mika Meskanen
> > <mika.meskanen@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >         Interesting…
> >
> >         I think enabling the phone as smart remote to TV is a baseline
> >         requirement. That's something to start thinking about already
> >         today.
> >
> >         The collaborative, multi-device, shared screen scenario is
> >         more ambitious, but if we come up with a number of compelling
> >         scenarios (Novacut example is a good start) we can to build
> >         understanding around the subject.
> >
> >         There are some interesting multi-screen entertainment
> >         scenarios as well. E.g. Live football match on TV, phone as
> >         remote, and tablet as secondary channel to display scores /
> >         live tables. There are many more, I'm sure.
> >
> >
> >         Mika
> >
> >
> >
> >         On 18 Nov 2011, at 08:37, Karloman De Waarachtige wrote:
> >
> >         > I take it we're looking towards an app on
> >         ubuntu-phone/tablet to control ubuntu-tv. This can be achieved
> >         through SSH or even VNC. Anyone following me on this one?
> >         >
> >         > In the hardware departement; http://www.boxee.tv has one of
> >         the best remotes I've seen so far. One side has a D-Pad and
> >         one button; the other side has a hardware keyboard (much
> >         preferred over a software one). Might be interesting for
> >         canonical if they do decide to choose hardware over software.
> >         >
> >         > Regs,
> >         >
> >         > On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 9:25 AM, Christian Giordano
> >         <christian.giordano@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >         > In the context of simply controlling the TV, and inspiring
> >         project might be Google Anymote:
> >         http://code.google.com/p/anymote-protocol/
> >         >
> >         > The possibility of collaborate on a software with more users
> >         in realtime and having the TV showing a different view of the
> >         process sounded complicated but at the end it is what already
> >         happens with many collaborative tools like Google Docs. So it
> >         will be a natural scenario when our applications will be more
> >         collaborative.
> >         >
> >         >
> >         > Cheers, chr
> >         >
> >         >
> >         > On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 1:32 AM, david jordan
> >         <dmj726@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >         > With Ubuntu now being targeted toward TVs as well as
> >         smartphones and tablets, one thing that strikes me is that
> >         traditionally TVs have traditionally struggled to accept
> >         inputs that don't fit into either preset functions on the
> >         remote/controller or the equivalent of arrow keys + Select.
> >          (Think of all the interfaces on set top boxes that require
> >         the user to enter text via an onscreen keyboard that can only
> >         be navigated via arrow keys.)
> >         > While it's probably good to have basic functions accessible
> >         via this standard remote  system, I think we can leverage
> >         Ubuntu on smartphones and tablets to provide a much richer
> >         input system.  By allowing smartphones and tablets to control
> >         the television, we could open up Ubuntu TVs for a wide range
> >         of collaborative activities.
> >         > So you would have each of your group's tablets connect to
> >         the TV, start up the application you want to work with, and
> >         begin working together.  This could work differently depending
> >         on the use case.  Either everyone could be working/playing
> >         together on the big screen, or individuals could work with a
> >         network enabled application on their own tablet and then share
> >         their progress directly on the TV with the others as they each
> >         made their own adjustments.
> >         > In the case of a video editing project, say Novacut, each
> >         user would be cutting a given scene, doing color correction,
> >         etc on their own Ubuntu tablet, with the TV as a shared screen
> >         for showing progress, getting feedback from the rest of the
> >         group, and keeping tabs on the state of the edit as a whole.
> >         > I'm sure there are many other applications that could
> >         benefit from having a shared screen interfaced with many tiny
> >         ones, especially ones where people are trying to create and
> >         remix as a group as well as facilitating social games.
> >         > David Jordan
> >         >
> >         >
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