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[Jim Hodapp <jim.hodapp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

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Daniel,

On 03/07/2013 12:02 PM, Daniel Holm wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> 
> Veritatem, agreed. A standalone client using mpd, with some of our
> own plugins and stuff, would be a good solution.
> 
> Akash, what do you mean by global control? I'm thinking the same
> kind of global media buttons as in the sound indicator, is that
> what you mean?
> 
> Jouni, I'd love to see your designs!
> 
> Michael, thank you for your concerns - I greately appreciate them! 
> However this code is not suppose to be the final deal. I started of
> my creating the UI that I imagined in my head, for you guys to see,
> as i wrote earlier. And yes, I did it without knowing the backend.
> But basically I figured that I wanted to create code that later on
> could be used by any backend. Basically by adding a button, lets
> say the play button, press it and a command is sent. That command
> could be any command, but in this app it starts a track using mpd,
> Rhythmbox, or whatever we would like.

I would just like to add that I highly recommend that if you want a
specific backend, that you work to integrate it into a QtMultimedia
plugin. Ubuntu Touch is very much trying to follow the structure that
Qt5 has setup, and so for your mpd or rhythmbox backends, they'll be
the most useful if they can simply plugin to QtMultimedia [1].

> 
> I haven't put that much time into it and re-writing it is part of
> the process - escpecially since this that I've written is more of a
> demo. Also a way for me to learn how to do things.
> 
> About the scaling - I do need help with that and I figured this
> would be just one of all things we would help each other with.
> However, I see this app to be one of the smaller ones on the right,
> and not a full screen app (then running on Tablet, of course).

Take a look at the current media player app for a great example of how
to write a QML UI that can scale, as well as rotate when a user
physically rotates their device: lp:mediaplayer-app

> 
> Also, I did reply. Perhaps not with the most clear message, but I
> did reply that I would love for this to be one of the default apps
> in Ubuntu Touch. And with that said, I would very much like to work
> with others. But. I do have a limited amount of time to put on this
> so I wouldn't be a good idea to make my the primary developer, so
> helping you guys is probably the best solution.
> 
> I too want this to evolvoe, and I would love for more users to 
> contribute, and support each other by feedback and code.
> 
> What do you guys propose? Set up a developer team and let people
> join, and take it from there?

I'm working to get a mailing list created for all things media and
possibly a separate freenode IRC channel as well. We can go from there
with more specific discussions. I'll post here when these things are
created and then we can more fully dive in.

> 
> Vänlig hälsning / Yours sincerely, Daniel Holm IT Consultant Web
> Developer Student d.holmen@xxxxxxxxx http://www.danielholm.se

Regards,

Jim

[1] http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5.0/qtmultimedia/qtmultimedia-module.html

> 
> 2013-03-07 14:38, Michael Zanetti skrev:
>> Hey,
>> 
>> great to see you're motivated. However, I'm not sure if the
>> taken approach is really taking us somewhere for different
>> reasons:
>> 
>> You started off with a QML file without thinking on how the
>> actual player should work, which features do you want to support,
>> and how this will be hooked up to a backend. Most likely you end
>> up rewriting the whole code when you realize this doesn't fit
>> with the backend you choose. Also, your code does not scale with
>> different screen sizes or form factors.
>> 
>> When Jim Hodapp and I replied to some of your original music app 
>> emails, we never heard back from you. Are you interested in
>> working with the people inside of Canonical on the music app that
>> will ship with Ubuntu Touch by default, or do you rather want to
>> experiment and come up with your own thing? Note that both is
>> fine for us, but if you want to contribute to the default music
>> app, then we've got to work together.
>> 
>> It'd be great if you could let us know how you see this efforts 
>> evolving over time.
>> 
>> Br, Michael
>> 
>> 
>> On Thursday 07 March 2013 02:53:21 Daniel Holm wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Lovely!
>>> 
>>> The code is up, and its quite simple - though it doesn't really
>>> do what I want it to yet..
>>> 
>>> I'm studying at the University of Gothenburg full time, and
>>> this app is kind of my free time project between books and
>>> papers to hand in, so I haven't had the time to submit any
>>> images - until now:
>>> 
>>> http://owncloud.danielholm.se/public.php?service=files&t=71d2604924bdad57493
>>>
>>>
>>> 
165cb4705b554
>>> http://owncloud.danielholm.se/public.php?service=files&t=a057005a8133302681
>>>
>>>
>>> 
0a708842deaed6
>>> 
>>> The huge icon is just a place holder for a album cover.
>>> 
>>> Vänlig hälsning / Yours sincerely, Daniel Holm IT Consultant 
>>> Web Developer Student d.holmen@xxxxxxxxx 
>>> http://www.danielholm.se
>>> 
>>> 2013-03-07 01:43, Akash skrev:
>>>> Hey,
>>>> 
>>>> I would love to start contributing on the music app too!
>>>> 
>>>> But i'm just wondering, before diving into actually coding,
>>>> don't you want to design the UI and get an idea from the
>>>> community if it follows the guidelines or not? Yes we could
>>>> all download the code and try running it ourselves to see the
>>>> UI but i'm just wondering because its going to be easier to
>>>> put pictures of the app design :)
>>>> 
>>>> On Wednesday, March 6, 2013, Daniel Holm wrote: Hi again, 
>>>> I've started on the UI and just done some small stuff. I 
>>>> created this in like two hours. I'm still figuring out a lot
>>>> of things since I've never coded an app and usually code
>>>> web. But it's a lot of fun, so we'll see where it takes. And
>>>> perhaps it's better to use mpd, which was said earlier.
>>>> We'll have to code a cover downloader, srcobble support and
>>>> more, though. Anyways, here is my repo:
>>>> https://launchpad.net/musicapp Vänlig hälsning / Yours
>>>> sincerely, Daniel Holm IT Consultant Web Developer Student 
>>>> d.holmen@xxxxxxxxx http://www.danielholm.se Den mån  4 mar
>>>> 2013 23:39:04 skrev Daniel Holm: Hi again, I've started to
>>>> code on this application now. I don't know if I should set up
>>>> a separate project on Launchpad, or what? It's just a little
>>>> piece of the UI, but hey - it's a start ;) I'd like some
>>>> pointers since this is my first application. Vänlig hälsning
>>>> / Yours sincerely, Daniel Holm IT Consultant Web Developer 
>>>> Student d.holmen@xxxxxxxxx http://www.danielholm.se Den mån
>>>> 4 mar 2013 20:13:11 skrev Daniel Holm: Hi again, What a
>>>> response! Wonderful! I was thinking of Rhythmbox since its 
>>>> bundled with Ubuntu as default. And you'll have the same
>>>> playlists, settings for eg. Last.fm and such things. I'd love
>>>> to see this becoming the default music app in Ubuntu Touch, 
>>>> and I'd gladly share the work with anyone wanting to join. 
>>>> I'll try to create a UI demo in Qt Creator later this week,
>>>> so I can show you how I imagine it. Also I'd happily join
>>>> the meeting. Vänlig hälsning / Yours sincerely, Daniel Holm 
>>>> IT Consultant Web Developer Student d.holmen@xxxxxxxxx 
>>>> http://www.danielholm.se Den mån  4 mar 2013 19:50:38 skrev 
>>>> Veritatem Ignotam: What about using MPD as a backend? May be
>>>> less resource intensive as a backend, shouldn't have a
>>>> problem compiling as is, and possibly simpler to build your
>>>> interface from scratch on top of MPD instead of trying to
>>>> work with rhythmbox's. V.I. On 03/04/2013 10:36 AM, Daniel 
>>>> Holm wrote: Hi all, I'm thinking about creating a music
>>>> application. I'm in an early stage of learning to code for
>>>> QML to begin with, but I have some concerns for the future. 
>>>> I'm thinking about creating an application that really uses
>>>> Rhythmbox as an backend, but using $ rhythmbox-client. Since 
>>>> its Ubuntus default music player, I mean. So just a easy UI
>>>> with buttons for previous, next track, play/pause, stop,
>>>> playlist and so on. Press a button and a flag to 
>>>> rhythmbox-client is sent. What are you guys' thoughts on
>>>> this? Is it possible to have rhythmbox running in the
>>>> background instead of writing a completely new music player?
> 
> 

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