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[Calum K Pringle <calum.pringle@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hey all, Jim, Daniel, Rasmus,

Yes we will be designing and developing the music app in the open; we plan to follow the same process as we have so far for the clock, calendar, calculator and weather apps (check out our blog for an idea of what we've done so far!). That'll include a launchpad project.

We've been busy with these four apps so far but have started thinking about music, so we'll share as soon as we have more than thoughts in our heads ;-)

Cheers - excited!

Calum Pringle
Interaction Designer

Canonical Design Team
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On 4 Apr 2013, at 03:21, Jim Hodapp wrote:

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> Daniel,
> 
> On 04/03/2013 08:54 PM, Daniel Clem wrote:
>> Just a small feature request. I love streaming Jamendo CC music
>> using Rhythmbox and the Android app. Is there a way to integrate
>> Jamendo streaming into your player? Given the open nature of
>> Ubuntu, the creative commons music concept seems to fit nicely.
> 
> Thanks for the idea. Certainly anything is possible. There's going to
> be a core set of requirements for the default app and I'm just not
> sure what they are quite yet. That will come out with the work that
> the design team is doing, so stay tuned. :)
> 
>> 
>> Just an idea, if your interested I have ideas of how to search and 
>> manage the streams.
>> 
>> God Bless
>> 
>> Daniel Holm <d.holmen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> 
>> Sounds lovely!
>> 
>> I'm really looking forward to it.
>> 
>> Vänlig hälsning / Yours sincerely, Daniel Holm IT Consultant Web
>> Developer Student d.holmen@xxxxxxxxx http://www.danielholm.se
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Jim
> 
> 
> 
>> 
>> Den ons  3 apr 2013 20:55:50 skrev Jim Hodapp:
>> 
>> Daniel,
>> 
>> Ok, it probably did get through but there's a lot of noise on the
>> list sometimes. :) So that's great! Right now I'm waiting on the
>> design team to come out with the preliminary music app design work.
>> It should be any day now. Once this is out, we can really start to
>> dive into the work of implementing the UI and making sure we have
>> what we need for supporting the app on the media backend side of
>> things.
>> 
>> I've CCed Calum Pringle on this email. Maybe he can comment on the 
>> status of this design work.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Jim
>> 
>> On 04/03/2013 02:51 PM, Daniel Holm wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Unless my mail don't get through, I've said, twice, that I do want 
>> to contribute this project to become the default music application 
>> for Ubuntu Touch.
>> 
>> So, yes. Default music application. Sorry if I've been 
>> inarticulate.
>> 
>> Vänlig hälsning / Yours sincerely, Daniel Holm IT Consultant Web 
>> Developer Student d.holmen@xxxxxxxxx http://www.danielholm.se
>> 
>> Den ons 3 apr 2013 20:07:46 skrev Jim Hodapp: Daniel,
>> 
>> One thing I haven't seen you mention yet is if you want to do a 
>> separate community music app, or if you want to participate in the 
>> default music app that will ship with Ubuntu Touch?
>> 
>> Jim
>> 
>> On 04/03/2013 02:03 PM, Daniel Holm wrote:
>> 
>> Hi guys,
>> 
>> I'm ready to get this project going again. Shall we have a 
>> meeting?
>> 
>> Vänlig hälsning / Yours sincerely, Daniel Holm IT Consultant Web
>> Developer Student d.holmen@xxxxxxxxx http://www.danielholm.se
>> 
>> Den mån 18 mar 2013 11:31:20 skrev Diego Sarmentero:
>> 
>> On 03/12/2013 01:36 PM, Daniel Holm wrote:
>> 
>> Awaiting link :) Vänlig hälsning / Yours sincerely, Daniel Holm IT
>> Consultant Web Developer Student d.holmen@xxxxxxxxx 
>> http://www.danielholm.se 2013-03-08 22:07, Diego Sarmentero skrev:
>> 
>> On 03/08/2013 04:08 PM, Zisu Andrei wrote:
>> 
>> Is there any way this could be moved after 4.30 ? I have classes
>> unitl 4.15. Zisu Andrei
>> 
>> 
>> Fine by me. 4:30 UTC it is.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 8 March 2013 18:35, Diego Sarmentero 
>> <diego.sarmentero@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>> <mailto:diego.sarmentero@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>> 
>> On 03/08/2013 02:23 PM, Daniel Holm wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Diego,
>> 
>> I think that's a great idea! When is a good time for you to have a
>> meeting? Set a time and those who can attend will?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Maybe the meeting could be at 3pm UTC time this Tuesday (12th
>> March), we can meet at irc #ubuntu-touch to share the hangout link
>> and whoever is there and is interested can join.
>> 
>> 
>> Cheers, Daniel
>> 
>> Den 8 mar 2013 13:31 skrev "Diego Sarmentero" 
>> <diego.sarmentero@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>> <mailto:diego.sarmentero@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>:
>> 
>> On 03/08/2013 08:57 AM, Daniel Holm wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> First, I do think we should move the discussion away from here, so
>> I'm off to the teams mail list from now on. I just sent out a mail,
>> which I pasted below.
>> 
>> Michael, I agree with you that we should probably be talking now
>> first hand and writing it down. See the mail below.
>> 
>> Zisu, agreed. Its better if we try to work together instead of 
>> having all these different projects. At least in the beginning.
>> Although I might say that I want a separated music and video 
>> player. But remote things sounds nice. Using mod this would be
>> easier.
>> 
>> And about Umedia, I'm thinking about reusing, almost porting, the 
>> whole thing for this project. But this is a discussion for the
>> team.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi, I'm the one who did UMedia, so let me know and maybe i can
>> speed up things if we found another design that fits better for the
>> phone or something, because i already know the qml and c++ code of
>> that project, maybe we can arrange a kind-of-meeting via IRC or
>> hangout or something to talk about this and move forward.
>> 
>> Mail: Hi everyone and welcome,
>> 
>> I think we should start of my deciding what we want this
>> application to be. So I propose that everyone, who'd like, write
>> down what features they want, and then we discuss these features
>> and if we all agree with therm, create a blueprint and a goal.
>> 
>> Features for the first release is primary focus, but features for
>> later versions are welcome too, of course.
>> 
>> What I want the player to do: * play music tracks of a diverse
>> container from local device. * pause track, and use previous and
>> next track. * being able to shuffle * Scrabble tracks * use slider
>> to move quickly in the track * download and show album art
>> automatically. * use playlists,create and edit them. * sort by 
>> artist, album and track * sound menu for global management.
>> 
>> These are the features I could imagine for later on : * support for
>> upnp * for ampache * groveshark/spotify. * YouTube support *
>> lyrics
>> 
>> Please share your ideas and create a base of our development.
>> 
>> Cheers, Daniel
>> 
>> Den 8 mar 2013 11:27 skrev "Zisu Andrei" <matzipan@xxxxxxxxx 
>> <mailto:matzipan@xxxxxxxxx>>:
>> 
>> Guys,
>> 
>> I'm really new to QML and am still figuring out a lot of stuff, so
>> my code is not beautiful..
>> 
>> May I say hold your horses until we find a suitable architecture 
>> for both the backend and the frontend? Mybalsamiq should probably
>> do it for both, and we can more easily follow discussions for each 
>> over there.
>> 
>> For the backend side of things, I quite like mpd side of things
>> rather than plugging in to the low-level gstreamer. We should
>> sketch out a structure for it.
>> 
>> For the front-end side of things, I think we should probably wait
>> for Canonical to publish their application and see where we can
>> take it from there, but we can definetely brainstrom until then.
>> 
>> I see some nice ideas regarding remote control. We should probably
>> think about integrating controlling something with the phone and
>> maybe having the phone plugged into the tv and allowing it to be
>> controller (maybe a bluetooth keyboard).
>> 
>> Also, we need to sort out the level of integration between the 
>> Music Player and the Video player. I would quite like to see a
>> very integrated manner. Maybe even have them as one: Player (like
>> VLC).
>> 
>> Akash, what do you mean by global control? I'm thinking the same
>> kind of global media buttons as in the sound indicator, is that
>> what you mean?
>> 
>> Someone asked a really interesting question regarding global 
>> control. The way Ubuntu currently doess it is through DBus,
>> displaying play/pause and next track in the Sound menu. However, it
>> seems like they have become more like settings controls in Ubuntu
>> Phone and I am not entirely sure how they will look in 14.04.
>> Maybe someone in Canonical can enlighten us on this issue? My
>> thought on this is, use the same pattern, as it goes nicely with
>> the other menus, like Messeging and the like.
>> 
>> 
>> Zisu Andrei
>> 
>> 
>> On 8 March 2013 08:43, Michael Zanetti 
>> <michael.zanetti@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>> <mailto:michael.zanetti@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> On Thursday 07 March 2013 21:02:52 Daniel Holm wrote:
>> 
>> I set up a team on Launchpad:
>> 
>> https://launchpad.net/~touchmusicapp 
>> <https://launchpad.net/%7Etouchmusicapp>;
>> 
>> I'm not exactly sure what's the process for setting up such 
>> projects, but seems ok for me. I'll ask Michael Hall if its ok to
>> proceed with this.
>> 
>> I think there are some interesting ideas in this thread alread and
>> we should start writing them down somewhere to decide what we
>> want/need.
>> 
>> Also this thread is growing quite big and I agree that it would
>> make sense to move to a separate mailing list.
>> 
>> Br, Michael
>> 
>> 
>> Vänlig hälsning / Yours sincerely, Daniel Holm IT Consultant Web 
>> Developer Student d.holmen@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:d.holmen@xxxxxxxxx> 
>> http://www.danielholm.se
>> 
>> 2013-03-07 18:41, Diego Sarmentero skrev:
>> 
>> On 03/07/2013 02:38 PM, Daniel Holm wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Diego,
>> 
>> You are very much welcome to join if you like.
>> 
>> I can see that you got pretty far(!) with
>> 
>> your UMedia. It looks good.
>> 
>> The thing that I'm most concerned about is
>> 
>> just moving along Ubuntu's
>> 
>> UI guidelines. But the rest looks pretty
>> 
>> much like the features and
>> 
>> all, that I'd like.
>> 
>> 
>> Yes, i agree the UI is not the best, i was
>> 
>> thinking to redo that part
>> 
>> also, i wasn't happy about the UI/UX
>> 
>> Would you like to help out?
>> 
>> 
>> Of course, where is the team to join?
>> 
>> Vänlig hälsning / Yours sincerely,
>> 
>> Daniel Holm IT Consultant Web Developer Student d.holmen@xxxxxxxxx 
>> <mailto:d.holmen@xxxxxxxxx> http://www.danielholm.se
>> 
>> 2013-03-07 18:29, Diego Sarmentero skrev:
>> 
>> On 03/07/2013 02:22 PM, Sid Payton wrote:
>> 
>> Hey Michael, Are you working on a Xbmc remote for
>> 
>> Ubuntu Touch? That would be
>> 
>> great. Do you have a API to control XBMC?
>> 
>> If so could you pass me a
>> 
>> copy? Thanks.
>> 
>> Am 07.03.2013 11:28 schrieb "Michael Zanetti"
>> 
>> <michael.zanetti@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <
>> 
>> mailto:michael.zanetti@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
>> <mailto:michael.zanetti@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>> <mailto:michael.zanetti@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>>:
>> 
>> Hey Jouni,
>> 
>> Would be great to see those. I will most
>> 
>> likely port over
>> 
>> PlayMee too and could use some great design. Most likely
>> 
>> I can reuse most of it
>> 
>> for Xbmcremote too.
>> 
>> Cheers, Michael
>> 
>> On Thursday 07 March 2013 10:12:03 Jouni
>> 
>> Helminen wrote:
>> 
>> Hey guys,
>> 
>> We've done some nice new designs for a
>> 
>> core music app at
>> 
>> Canonical - we
>> 
>> could share these soon and see if it
>> 
>> makes sense to use them as a
>> 
>> starting point for the UI?
>> 
>> Thanks Jouni Helminen
>> 
>> Lead Designer Ubuntu Touch
>> 
>> On Thu Mar 7 02:32:52 2013, Akash wrote:
>> 
>> As far as global control of the app
>> 
>> goes, i think we could
>> 
>> place
>> 
>> something in the sound part of the
>> 
>> system services!
>> 
>> On Wednesday, March 6, 2013,
>> 
>> Veritatem Ignotam wrote:
>> 
>> I like where it's going. Good work!
>> 
>> If you decide to go the MPD
>> 
>> route, there's a small
>> 
>> daemon called
>> 
>> mpdscribble which can do the last.fm <http://last.fm> <
>> 
>> http://last.fm> <http://last.fm>
>> 
>> <
>> 
>> http://last.fm> reporting.
>> 
>> V.I.
>> 
>> On 03/06/2013 08:53 PM, Daniel
>> 
>> Holm wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Lovely!
>> 
>> The code is up, and its quite
>> 
>> simple - though it
>> 
>> doesn't really
>> 
>> do what I want it to yet..
>> 
>> I'm studying at the University
>> 
>> of Gothenburg full
>> 
>> time, and this
>> 
>> app is kind of my free time
>> 
>> project between books and
>> 
>> papers to
>> 
>> hand in, so I haven't had the
>> 
>> time to submit any
>> 
>> images - until now:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> http://owncloud.danielholm.se/public.php?service=files&t=71d2604924
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> bd
>> 
>> ad57493165cb4705b554
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> http://owncloud.danielholm.se/public.php?service=files&t=a057005a81
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 3
>> 
>> 33026810a708842deaed6
>> 
>> The huge icon is just a place
>> 
>> holder for a album cover.
>> 
>> Vänlig hälsning / Yours sincerely,
>> 
>> Daniel Holm IT Consultant Web Developer Student
>> 
>> d.holmen@xxxxxxxxx <
>> 
>> mailto:d.holmen@xxxxxxxxx> <mailto:d.holmen@xxxxxxxxx 
>> <mailto:d.holmen@xxxxxxxxx>>
>> 
>> http://www.danielholm.se
>> 
>> 2013-03-07 01:43, Akash skrev:
>> 
>> Hey,
>> 
>> I would love to start contributing
>> 
>> on the music app too!
>> 
>> But i'm just wondering, before
>> 
>> diving into actually
>> 
>> coding,
>> 
>> don't you want to design the UI
>> 
>> and get an idea from the
>> 
>> community if it follows the
>> 
>> guidelines or not? Yes we
>> 
>> could all
>> 
>> download the code and try running
>> 
>> it ourselves to see
>> 
>> the UI but
>> 
>> i'm just wondering because its
>> 
>> going to be easier to put
>> 
>> pictures of the app design :)
>> 
>> On Wednesday, March 6, 2013,
>> 
>> Daniel Holm wrote:
>> 
>> Hi again,
>> 
>> I've started on the UI and
>> 
>> just done some small
>> 
>> stuff. I
>> 
>> created this in like two
>> 
>> hours. I'm still
>> 
>> figuring out a lot
>> 
>> of things since I've never
>> 
>> coded an app and
>> 
>> usually code web.
>> 
>> But it's a lot of fun, so
>> 
>> we'll see where it takes.
>> 
>> And perhaps it's better to use
>> 
>> mpd, which was
>> 
>> said earlier.
>> 
>> We'll have to code a cover
>> 
>> downloader, srcobble
>> 
>> support and
>> 
>> more, though.
>> 
>> Anyways, here is my repo:
>> 
>> https://launchpad.net/musicapp
>> 
>> Vänlig hälsning / Yours
>> 
>> sincerely,
>> 
>> Daniel Holm IT Consultant Web Developer Student
>> 
>> d.holmen@xxxxxxxxx <
>> 
>> mailto:d.holmen@xxxxxxxxx> <mailto:d.holmen@xxxxxxxxx 
>> <mailto:d.holmen@xxxxxxxxx>>
>> 
>> http://www.danielholm.se
>> 
>> Den mån 4 mar 2013 23:39:04 skrev
>> 
>> Daniel Holm:
>> 
>> Hi again,
>> 
>> I've started to code on this
>> 
>> application now.
>> 
>> I don't
>> 
>> know if I should set up a separate project on
>> 
>> Launchpad, or what?
>> 
>> It's just a little piece of the
>> 
>> UI, but hey -
>> 
>> it's a
>> 
>> start ;)
>> 
>> I'd like some pointers since
>> 
>> this is my first
>> 
>> application.
>> 
>> Vänlig hälsning / Yours sincerely,
>> 
>> Daniel Holm IT Consultant Web Developer Student
>> 
>> d.holmen@xxxxxxxxx <
>> 
>> mailto:d.holmen@xxxxxxxxx> <mailto:d.holmen@xxxxxxxxx 
>> <mailto:d.holmen@xxxxxxxxx>>
>> 
>> http://www.danielholm.se
>> 
>> Den mån 4 mar 2013 20:13:11
>> 
>> skrev Daniel Holm:
>> 
>> Hi again,
>> 
>> What a response! Wonderful!
>> 
>> I was thinking of Rhythmbox
>> 
>> since its
>> 
>> bundled with
>> 
>> Ubuntu as default. And you'll have the same
>> 
>> playlists,
>> 
>> settings for eg.
>> 
>> Last.fm <http://Last.fm> and such things.
>> 
>> I'd love to see this
>> 
>> becoming the default
>> 
>> music app
>> 
>> in Ubuntu Touch, and I'd gladly share the
>> 
>> work with anyone
>> 
>> wanting to
>> 
>> join.
>> 
>> I'll try to create a UI demo
>> 
>> in Qt
>> 
>> Creator later
>> 
>> this week, so I can
>> 
>> 
>> -- Adrenaline Junkie
>> 
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>> Hi, some time ago i started a project
>> 
>> intended to do a Music App to
>> 
>> run on the desktop and the phone: 
>> https://github.com/saruneko/UMedia
>> 
>> You can see some videos of the app working
>> 
>> here:
>> 
>> http://www.saruneko.org/umedia
>> 
>> I don't know if you were considering
>> 
>> something like that, i haven't
>> 
>> add some code to that lately because i was
>> 
>> busy with other stuff,
>> 
>> but let me know if that could be of any use.
>> 
>> Regards!
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