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[Josh Leverette <coder543@xxxxxxxxx>]

I'm sorry, but I've heard nothing except good things about WebKit for the
last several years. It is also impossible for there to be more workarounds
for WebKit than for Internet Explorer. Firefox is then the only other major
browser with a different engine, which means the code was originally
written to take Firefox's idiosyncrasies into account first and foremost,
so of course WebKit would have more workarounds than Firefox's gecko engine
in jQuery. These nebulous claims about a buggy code base are very strange.
WebKit is the most proven HTML engine in existence; proven by Apple,
Google, and many others... all who contributed to fix bugs. This is in
opposition to gecko, which was developed and proven solely by Mozilla.
WebKit is the best there is right for now.

If you're going to make claims that challenge the decision making skills of
Apple, Google, Digia (makers of Qt), Amazon, Blackberry, Sony, HP/Palm,
Valve, Adobe, and now Opera... please provide a source link at the very
least. All of these companies (and more!) chose WebKit as their browser's
engine of choice when they could have chosen gecko. Why would they do this?
WebKit is provably a good choice. Even Epiphany switched from gecko to
WebKit because they decided gecko was cumbersome, according to Wikipedia.

Android apps will not be supported. Talk to Mozilla, if they want to port
their mobile app to Ubuntu, I have no problem with there being additional
choice for the consumer, but this is not the place for that request to be
made into reality.

Sincerely,
Josh
On Jun 20, 2013 10:58 PM, "Luke Bryan" <luke32j@xxxxxxx> wrote:

> In my opinion webkit would be a fairly buggy base for a JS+QML interface.
> Even the jQuery folks have said there are more workarounds in their code
> for odd webkit behavior than other browsers. Mozilla technology is already
> making great leaps in the os integration area (Boot2gecko, asm.js which
> optimizes js up to around half the speed of native), which would be very
> beneficial in a web/javascript app-centered OS.
>
> I do hope Ubuntu phone will be able to run Firefox, or at least the
> Android version of Firefox?
>
> Best wishes
> Luke
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 20:06:27 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-phone] browser does not support webgl
> From: coder543@xxxxxxxxx
> To: luke32j@xxxxxxx
> CC: ubuntu-phone@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> WebKit is rapidly becoming the standard for the internet, and I'm not sure
> what quirks you're talking about. However, if they're developing their own
> browser, then by definition it cannot be Firefox. If someone develops an
> alternative browser, nothing will stop you from using it.
>
> Right now, no one offers Firefox for mobile through the Ubuntu UI, so
> making it even optional would prove to be extremely difficult.
>
> Sincerely,
> Josh
>  Please don't tell me default web browser is webkit?
> Won't Firefox be default, or at least have an option to install Firefox on
> the Ubuntu-phone, like the desktop Ubuntu? I've had enough experiences
> trying to track down weird webkit quirks that I would prefer not to use it
> exclusively on a phone.
>
> Best regards,
> Luke
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 18:25:59 -0400
> From: pat.mcgowan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> To: ubuntu-phone@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-phone] browser does not support webgl
>
> On 06/20/2013 05:07 PM, Zisu Andrei wrote:
>
> I'm not sure webkit linux supports webgl.
>
>  Zisu Andrei
>
> This report seems pertinent, will look into it further.
> Pat
> https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTBUG-30405
>
>
>
> On 20 June 2013 20:39, Wim de Vries <wsvries@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> Just tested the Web browser on WebGL ... no support.
> Is there a reason for this?
> I would say a basic feature for mobiles.
>
> Thanks.
>
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