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[Gustavo Niemeyer <gustavo@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

FWIW, that's how Android's 4.4 immersive mode works too:

"When immersive full-screen mode is enabled, your activity continues
to receive all touch events. The user can reveal the system bars with
an inward swipe along the region where the system bars normally
appear."

https://developer.android.com/training/system-ui/immersive.html



On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 2:37 PM, Matt Richardson
<m.richardson.1990@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On 26/03/14 09:46, Michael Zanetti wrote:
>> On Wednesday 26 March 2014 06:59:47 Martin Pitt wrote:
>>> Alberto Mardegan [2014-03-25 22:21 +0200]:
>>>> Just brainstorming: what if sliding left from the lower part of the
>>>> right edge triggered the "back" action?
>>> I had pretty much the same proposal yesterday on IRC: E. g. in the
>>> scopes, swiping (anywhere) to the right doesn't currently do anything.
>>> That felt like a natural "back" action to me, i. e. move the page that
>>> I see to the right so that I get back to the previous one. The
>>> intuition is certainly the other way around in Israel or Japan where
>>> books are being read from right to left :-), but that could be taken
>>> into account (support both or look at locale?)
>>>
>>> But regardless of how it's done, consistency is the key. I really
>>> consider the abolishing of hardware back and menu buttons a bad move
>>> (I hope my old Xperia with proper buttons still lasts a while..),
>>> which created all these design problems of hoping all developers in
>>> the world would consistently create back buttons in the UI, or
>>> otherwise create an undiscoverable inconsistency. So from that POV
>>> putting it in the current location on the top left title bar is a good
>>> decision.
>>>
>> Hmm, I don't think the hardware button is that much required. I've been using
>> phones without hardware back button for many years now and never really missed
>> it. I do agree with Oli tho, that I miss the back button in a reachable place
>> now.
>>
>> What I'm not sure about (and thats purely my opinion) is if it was a good idea
>> to give the bottom edge to app developers. As the proposal says, its the most
>> important and easily reachable edge. Imo it should be consistent across the
>> phone experience and be the place where the most important controls for the
>> current context are placed (e.g. the back button). What we'll get now is a
>> random surprise whenever you use the bottom edge.
>
> As a potential solution, what if a short swipe from the bottom showed
> the toolbar, with longer swipes being handed over to the developer?
>
> Matt
>
>>
>> I personally hoped we'd keep the panel as it was, but lock it to be always
>> visible, and if the OSK is visible, move the panel on top of the OSK, instead
>> of hiding it behind it. I think that would have solved the discoverability
>> issue too without being that disruptive for the overall phone experience.
>>
>> Note aside: The reason why the Launcher on the phone is inverted, is because
>> it was too hard to reach the home button in the top left corner.
>>
>> Br,
>> Michael
>>
>
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