I think that of phone manufacturers are paying Canonical for
exclusive scopes, the scopes should stay exclusive. The OS should
be open source and generally available, but there needs to be an
incentive to phone manufacturers to carry the OS on their phones,
and custom-made extensions to the OS (e.g., custom scopes, or any
other customizations that can be cooked up) should be available for
Canonical to sell. As long as there aren't any restrictions place
upon the community to produce open source versions of the scopes.
On Feb 13, 2015 2:10 PM, "Sid Payton" <sidpayton@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Thank you very much for bringing this up and answering some of my
question I also had.
I agree with Niklas to the point that I also believe that all
scopes developed by Canonical (to which I believe the today and
nearby scope count) should be released to every phone manufactorer
and develpment-phone (Nexus 4).
I bought my Nexus 4 in 2013 just to try out Ubuntu and be able to
promote it to friends and family as soon it was ready.
So would feel a little bit disapointed if I couldn't enjoy the
full Ubuntu experiance. Also this influences my ability to show
Ubuntu off to my friends, since scopes are the biggest feature.
If on the other hand those aggregator scopes (today, nearby etc)
were developed by BQ, things would look totally different.
Manufactorers need to differentiate themself. And I tip my hat to
you guys it's allready working. At least on me.
If those scopes are BQ specific, I'm really looking forward what
Meizu can deliver. And if I let my head dream a little what might
be possible, it's gonna be really hard to deside weather to get
the BQ or the Meizu. No longer is it just who is cheaper or has
the better Hardware, but also who has the better service (scopes).
But if those scopes are really from BQ, I would vote, that some
basic most needed scopes (such as today and nearby) should be
developed by Canonical and shiped with all Ubuntu phones. These
scopes are essential. The manufactorers shouldnt need to create
all the nessesarry scopes themself.
Just some special services and new inovations.
But also, if those scopes are made by Canonical, I thing it would
be a good thing to make different ones for Meizu and keep all
those cool new scopes away from the Nexus 4 for the next couple of
months. This way manufactorers would see what is possible and how
to really differentiate. It would be the proof of concept. But
after some demonstration for the manufactorers please open them to
your community (Nexus 4), we (at least I) would really appreciate
it.
Thanks
Am 13.02.2015 15:33 schrieb "Niklas Wenzel"
<nikwen.developer@xxxxxxxxx>:
Hi Pat,
Thank you very much for your valuable input. I apologize for not
coming back to you earlier, as I've been busy with my "offline
life".
I would be very glad if the scopes get released for all phones in
the future, as what I really like about Ubuntu is its openness.
However, I can also understand if manufacturers decide they do
not want to do so. After all, scopes help them differentiate
their phones...
With regards to their speeds, I haven't thought of the different
screen sizes of the Nexus 4 and the BQ Aquaris yet. This finally
explains why the Aquaris seemed to be slightly faster than the
Nexus 4 in the video. My guess was that the support for the
Aquaris was better due to a fact that it generated income, but
your explanation is totally plausible!
Thank you very, very much for your answer again. I really
appreciate it. :)
Cheers,
Niklas
2015-02-10 19:46 GMT+01:00 Pat McGowan
<pat.mcgowan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 9:00 AM, Niklas Wenzel
<nikwen.developer@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi,
Hi Niklas
During the last few days, I've come up with a few questions
which I haven't found answers to yet:
1) Some time ago, I read that the Nexus 4 is still going to be
supported after the launch of the BQ phone.
Now I'm wondering whether the new set of scopes (Today, Nearby,
etc.) will be included in the mako images. Has that been
decided on yet or is their source code available somewhere?
There is no shot term plan to release these but I will try to
get some more information.
2) How does the BQ phone's performance compare to the Nexus 4?
I saw the Youtube video [1] which Szymon Waliczek uploaded some
days ago (thank you, Szymon) but I found it difficult to judge
from it.
I think it depends, the Nexus 4 has more processing power but
because the BQ Aquarius screen has less resolution some UI
oriented things are faster. But the Aquarius has half the
memory so applications are "stopped" more often. Overall the two
seem comparable to in responsiveness me but others may have more
specific data.
3) What is going to be the development target in the future?
Will the main focus be on the Nexus 4 or the BQ phone? Or will
it be some phone nobody currently knows about?
The Nexus 4, the Nexus 7 for tablet and the emulator will be the
reference targets for the foreseeable future, Of course the
commercial products like the BQ will be supported as they come
along.
Cheers
Pat
I'd be very glad if anyone here would be so kind as to take the
time and answer one of my questions.
Thank you very much in advance. :)
Cheers,
Niklas
[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXGbRnfqSss
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