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[Christian Dywan <christian.dywan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hey Peter,

When you say desktop right now that basically means X11 without any 
confinement in place and no lifecycle enforcement, so applications run 
happily and battery wastfully in the background at all times.

On the other hand anything running Ubuntu Personal with Mir as the 
display server, which is most likely a phone (but can also be a tablet 
or desktop if you're adventorous) pauses apps once they go into the 
background. They won't be able to keep track of updates let alone send 
a notification.
This is why push notifications are needed. A background service will do 
the checking for updates and bring the application in the foreground if 
the user opens the notification.

Hope that makes things a bit clearer.

Regards,
   Christian

Am Do, 13. Aug, 2015 um 4:53 schrieb Peter Bittner 
<peter.bittner@xxxxxxx>:
> Ouch, that's unfortunate. Users are already requesting notifications
> as a feature.
>
> Why is it possible to have desktop notifications on an Ubuntu desktop
> machine, and it's not possible on Ubuntu Touch? Are we using two
> different implementations here and there? (How is convergence going to
> work if the two worlds behave differently?)
>
> Would be good to know,
> Peter
>
>
>
> 2015-08-13 22:03 GMT+02:00 Niklas Wenzel <nikwen.developer@xxxxxxxxx>:
> >  Yes, the Gmail notifications are created by the account-polld 
> > background
> >  service. That logic has nothing to do with the webapp.
> >
> >
> >  Am Do, 13. Aug, 2015 um 10:02 schrieb Peter Bittner 
> > <peter.bittner@xxxxxxx>:
> >
> >  Oliver, I see that Gmail (the WebApp?) has push notifications on my 
> > device.
> >  Is this maybe related to the Online Accounts, and not the WebApp? 
> > Because
> >  the Gmail WebApp only has "accounts" as a policy group, nothing 
> > else. Peter
> >  2015-08-13 17:54 GMT+02:00 Oliver Grawert <ogra@xxxxxxxxxx>:
> >
> >  hi, Am Donnerstag, den 13.08.2015, 17:32 +0200 schrieb Peter 
> > Bittner:
> >
> >  permission when you login. On Ubuntu Touch the same thing must 
> > happen. I'm
> >  not sure I have seen this before (in a WebApp).
> >
> >  except that your app is suspended when it is not having the focus 
> > or the
> >  screen is locked ... so the only time when notifications directly 
> > from the
> >  app work is while you are using it actively ... ciao oli
>
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