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[Thibaut Dedreuil_monet <dedreuil@xxxxxxxx>]

On Thu, 1 Oct 2015 08:22:50 -0400
Pat McGowan <pat.mcgowan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 4:36 AM, sturmflut <sturmflut@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> > Good morning dear list,
> >
> > I agree that SIM Tookit support is crucial for many countries. As far as
> > I know, ofono has a D-Bus API for it and the functionality is very
> > simple, so we might "just" have to build a simple, unconfined core app
> > that talks to ofono?
> >
> 
> Yes one could do that. The app would only get notifications if it was
> active but many menu functions could be implemented which could satisfy
> most of the use cases.
> https://github.com/rilmodem/ofono/blob/master/doc/stk-api.txt
> 
> Pat
> 
> 
> >
> > cheers,
> > Simon
> >
> >
> >
> > On 09/29/2015 10:29 PM, Thibaut Dedreuil_monet wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear all,
> > >
> > > I just wanted to share with you my experience with the lack of Sim
> > toolkit on UT.
> > > I have reported Bug #1323837 in May 2014 concerning the lack of sim
> > toolkit on UT. Few people have already acknowledge that this is a problem
> > on the bug report but from my recent conversation with a UT developper,
> > full SIM toolkit support is not even on the roadmap of UT. I am hoping by
> > this email to convince the product team to reconsider the inclusion of sim
> > toolkit support on UT and accelerate the development of the simtoolkit
> > support.
> > >
> > > My network provider is a cheap MVNO (Mobile Virtual Network Operators)
> > on the name of vectone mobile.  http://www.vectonemobile.co.uk/
> > > When i am abroad, i cannot use my phone network ( no call, no data, and
> > no location) if i do not have a basic sim toolkit support as i need to
> > change my sim parameters via it to enable me a network connection.
> > > For a short while I used my girlfriend's phone in order to set my sim
> > card correctly and was able to use it after on my UT phone.
> > > Not having the sim toolkit on my UT had the effect on me missing some
> > very important phone calls when i was abroad and i personally feel i should
> > not have to carry a second phone to use my UT abroad. I was able to do this
> > on all the previous phone i owned as all supported SIM toolkit while UT do
> > not.
> > >
> > > While i understand  that this is a very ancient technology and its not
> > used in all country, Sim toolkit support should be considered as a priority
> > as some network providers are still using this old technology.
> > >
> > > Following the bug report this also used in Norway for banking and some
> > users considers this has a must have in order to be able to use a UT. I
> > quote "Sim-toolkit is also used by BankID in Norway. There is no way I can
> > use the phone as a daily driver without this since it is used to access my
> > bank and many other services.
> > > I want to add that this is supported by all other smartphone OSs,
> > Firefox OS even. This should be a requirement."
> > >
> > > I am hopping that this email might be able to speed up on a decision on
> > enabling a proper basic sim toolkit support on UT. While i wish i could
> > help develop a solution for this, i do lack the skills to do so.
> > >
> > > Kind Regards.
> > >
> > > Thibaut
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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In the bug report you can find a link to the meego app which could be ported.

https://gitorious.org/meego-ux/meego-app-satk/source/6296ebb569697c5a80ee6b518ccf8c331d7cb840:doc/sim_toolkit_design_draft.txt#L61


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Thibaut