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[Alan Bell <alanbell@xxxxxxxxxx>]

On 06/10/15 15:45, Alexander Kinne wrote:
> On Di, Okt 6, 2015 at 1:53 , Oliver Grawert <ogra@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > hi,
> >
> > Am Donnerstag, den 01.10.2015, 16:53 +0100 schrieb Alan Bell:
> > >  one of the particular strengths of the Ubuntu Touch UI is that you can
> > >  see what apps are running and close the things you don't want.
> >
> > thats not true at all ... what you see in the app-spread is just a
> > representation of apps you "started once" and didn't remove from the
> > spread by swiping it away ... it doesn't tell you at all what the state
> > of an app is that is shown in this list ... it can be just SIGSTOPed but
> > it can also be completely wiped from ram, only leaving the screenshot in
> > the spread and being started from scratch when you focus it again.
>
> This may be sightly off topic, but I really feel this needs to be 
> thought about:
>
> In this case what is the sense of the switcher/ app-spread? Its just a 
> list of apps that got "started once" - fine. Whats the point of having 
> such a list? It could be useful to switch between recently used apps, 
> very much so! But really having to reboot the phone to reset it to a 
> blank state? Please don't suggest taking a few minute to caress the 
> screen of my phone swiping each individual app away - which is most 
> likely by then nothing more than a screen shot in this list, sometimes 
> just a blank screen and there is no way of telling even wich app it 
> should represent as having been "started once"'. It needs some way of 
> reset or its just bad user experience. Could be a button as in the 
> below but dismissed bug or a gesture.
>
> Could somebody with the authority please re-open the bug? I believe 
> this needs at least an ongoing discussion and should not just have 
> been dismissed:
>
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ux/+bug/1483042
well things that are shut down and just screenshots go into that out of 
focus blurry mode, then they refresh and come back, as if you have just 
started them, it is quite annoying, but perhaps better than some 
alternatives if you have to kill things to save memory. I am not 
entirely clear why the device is so resource constrained, I used a 1GB 
Intel Atom based desktop for some years and it was fine running lots of 
big applications with the compiz cube and so on with a big screen. The 
phone seems to have less work to do, I guess it doesn't have swap space 
(would a bit of swap be so terrible?) which makes it more aggressive 
towards it's applications.