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[Kevin Gunn <kevin.gunn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I think the best response I can provide is a video from our own Stephen
Webb at UoS a couple of days ago.

http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1511/meeting/22609/supporting-legacy-applications-on-ubuntu-personal/

br,kg

On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 3:29 AM, Liam <liam_philpott@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hi Kevin,
>
> Great reply - really clear information.
>
> Another aspect of convergence that I'm interested in is running XMir, or
> X-compatible applications. Will this be part of OTA-8, or any subsequent
> OTA update? And will the BQ E4.5 have sufficient power/resources to support
> this?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Liam.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 03:18:57 -0600
> From: kevin.gunn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> To: peter.bittner@xxxxxxx
> CC: ubuntu-phone@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Convergence (current status for bq devices)
>
>
> Hi,
> It's probably important for me to state first and foremost, our unity8/mir
> releases contain the same code across all of our supported devices. This
> code is in our the latest images (rc-proposed that is...iirc we _just_
> missed the cutoff for stable/OTA7). The 2 primary features are this 1)
> attaching a bluetooth mouse will put unity8 into windowed mode (regardless
> of external monitor). 2) attaching an external monitor is supported by the
> software (and will also put unity8 into windowed mode). All of this will
> just be part of OTA8.
>
> Besides the software, there is of course a hardware aspect to these
> features. For a cabled external monitor, I can only speak to Nexus4 & Nexus
> 7(2013) which have support for slimport (not MHL, they are similar but
> different specs). And it's been confirmed on this mailing list before, MX4
> & BQE4.5 do not have slimport or MHL. As for your BQE5, I am not familiar
> but would suspect the same wrt slimport and MHL.
> And as for your bluetooth mouse connection issue with your BQE5, I can't
> speak to that capability, maybe a bug? or maybe someone else knows...
>
> As for releasing a 15.10 based image, there's no plan to do so. And we're
> still releasing all of our features into stable-phone-overlay ppa on top of
> 15.04 - so in reality the 15.04+overlay is "more current" than 15.10 as
> 15.10 has been closed/frozen for some time now. And what little differs
> between 15.10 and 15.04+overlay is largely irrelevant for phone.
>
> br,kg
>
> On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 4:58 PM, Peter Bittner <peter.bittner@xxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
> I have difficulties finding out the current status of convergence.
>
> There have been a few videos and photos around on YouTube, Google+,
> OMG!Ubuntu, Ubuntu Wiki, but I've found no official roadmap or release
> date for an Ubuntu Touch release with convergence features enabled in
> general (on any device). Even worse, on OMG!Ubuntu a commenter
> mentions having been told by a Canonical representative that
> convergence will never be available for bq Aquaris (4.5) devices:
> """
> "The guy in charge of phone development at Canonical UK told me
> recently that you won't be able to 'converge' your Aquaris. For one
> thing the E4.5 isn't able to support MHL. It just doesn't have the
> required hardware to run as a desktop."
> """
> See below for some sources.
>
> Also, I've just bought a MHL micro USB to HDMI adapter [1], which
> works great for attaching USB pen drives, but when I try to attach
> either a wireless keyboard and mouse [2], or an external monitor to my
> bq Aquaris E5 Ubuntu Edition (latest OTA, 15.04, r6, VEGETEA01A-...)
> nothing happens. Attaching a bluetooth mouse [3] to the phone isn't
> supported yet either; same for the bluetooth keyboard of my kids' Kano
> device. At least on the stock image updated over the air.
>
> So,what is actually true? Will Ubuntu Touch on our devices be capable
> to do convergence, say, with the next OTA update? When can we expect
> convergence to work for all devices by default? Is there a status page
> or roadmap somewhere?
>
> (BTW, just noted that my phone runs 15.04; will the next OTA bring 15.10?)
>
> Peter
>
> --
> Videos, images, posts on convergence:
> - https://plus.google.com/+DanielWood/posts/BUTLNA7EpEA
> - https://plus.google.com/+DanielWood/posts/9pxKKAsiz5w
> -
> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/02/new-video-shows-off-ubuntu-convergence-demoed-on-tablet-phone
> -
> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/06/first-ubuntu-phone-with-convergence-is-being-made-by-bq
> -
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TunisianTeam/Presentations?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=Ubuntu-touch-the-super-smartphone-convergence.pdf
>
> [1] https://duckduckgo.com/?q=xcsource+5in1+AC148&t=canonical&ia=products
> [2] https://duckduckgo.com/?q=rapoo+e9100p&t=canonical&iac=1
> [3]
> https://duckduckgo.com/?q=logitech+ultrathin+toch+mouse&t=canonical&ia=products
>
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