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[Marcin Xc <gtriderxc@xxxxxxxxx>]

Looks similar to the message I sent some few months ago. I do not know who is here the boss but not the firt time I see the work at Ubuntu going... not the best way we can imagine. I mean there are some basics. As long as the basics doesn't function properly, we shouldn't proceed with some more complicated tasks and if so, why some small stupid bugs stay unsolved for such a very long time? Bluetooth... it reminds me the very same issue that we had with Ubuntu 12.04-the very first version with Unity option as I can remind myself. Till 12.04 Bluetooth used to work perfectly with all devices. Then from 12.04 people used to report bugs that are unsolved untill today. Because of some of them I have to use Windows, only because the Bluetooth works properly with all devices, as it was before 12.04.


Now I see the same problems again: we get more and more complexed device with really small problems that seem to not bother anyone anymore. There are problems with stupid phone calls or BT while some people talk about convergence.
Not enough people You would say. I give You people. As Krzysztof wrote there are many of them but guys... if I have totally no knowledge about making Android apps I'll find the needed Information in Internet EASILY AND QUICKLY so that I can create my own basic apps after few months. Now... Ubuntu Phone? Let's say I want to write apps/scopes and develop Ubuntu phone. Where do I find any information about it? I saw many people who became from zero to hero if it comes about programming and development any art. The very basic problem always are the sources of knowledge. Easy accesible sources of knowledge. Android became popular because it is quite easy to get the sources and to start to learn. If You ask an Android programmer how to develop Ubuntu phone, he's gonna have no slightest idea.All in all You do not have enough people and You ain't doing anything to change it. Right the opposite I'd say when I read what Krzysztof wrote.
Cheers
GTriderXC
 

      From: Krzysztof Tataradziński <ktatar156@xxxxxxxxx>
 To: ubuntu-phone <ubuntu-phone@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
 Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 10:51 PM
 Subject: [Ubuntu-phone] OTA-9 some new bugs
  
Hello,
I'm right after full wipe (with --bootstrap option), image with OTA-9, to do some 'clean' tests and found some new bugs.
1. Regardinghttps://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1521159
bug expanded - I found one person in my favorite tab in phone that was there some time ago (but I've deleted it from there in google.com/contacts) - now I've marked 4 contacts with a star - none of them are in favorite tab in Contacts app. Even more, I can't find some contacts in phone in normal 'All contacts' tab (yes, I can see them in google.com/contacts and in android phone contacts app), approximately 4-10 contacts missing in app. Maybe API changed?
2. Tagger - known bug - really annoying.
3. Camera app with MX4. a) When I switched first time to front camera and go to resolution options I found that there was some '5:4' (or sth similar) option without (x.x MP) string chosen by default. I've changed into 7:4 (2.1MP) and that 'old' '5:4' disappeared (sounds good) - point is that there should be any '5:4' option at default to choose in front camera.b) Flash don't work while taking photos, even when I 'force' to use it in options.
4. Why Ubuntu/Canonical apparently from one OTA to next OTA leave-as-is features that don't work? Example:a) Soundcloud scope - since I bought my phone (summer 2015), I can't login into my account in that scope.b) Youtube scope and settings in Accounts part in System settings: can't login in scope, switch in Accounts part regarding Google's Youtube also don't work.It should be repaired or removed (I mean only login buttons and switch in system settings) from default OS images until fix.
I'm really supporting Ubuntu as much as I can (recently a little less, because I changed my job and do not have time :/), but there are some bugs for a long time that makes me really angry, likehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1473668
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/camera-app/+bug/1471666
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/address-book-app/+bug/1483662
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-datetime/+bug/1401802
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtmultimedia-opensource-src/+bug/1420896
https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1472631
or plenty inhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-application-lifecycle
and many of them even without comment/ask for help/explanation where is the problem to fix bug.Is there anything we can do to speed up bug fixing process? Maybe there should be some 1-3 days event called 'Ubuntu mobile bug Day', when people meet and work with solving small, but annoying bugs as many as can they? Or maybe cooperate with technical universities - for now there is many possibility to 'use' students (as well with benefits that students get (knowledge, IT tools, significant relationship)? In my technical university it works really good (we have mainly Apple and Microsoft).
Best regards,Krzysztof Tataradzińskihttps://launchpad.net/~ktatar156

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