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Re: Ubuntu tablet

 

I assume it's because there's no such thing as mouse-hovering on a
touchscreen. The overlays are tiny until the cursor is near, then the
handle pops up.

On Tue, 2012-02-14 at 12:48 +0000, Matt Richardson wrote:

> I've obviously misinterpreted overlay scrollbars. I thought the reason
> behind them was that direct scrolling (drag the window to scroll)
> didn't need a scrollbar. Overlay scrollbars offer a way to hide them
> for people who don't need them, whilst remaining useful for people who
> do. But this article seems to suggest that touchscreen users have to
> try to hit the overlay scrollbar. Could someone clarify this?
> 
> On 14/02/12 11:13, Chris wrote: 
> 
> > Everyone can have ideas! ;-)
> > Anyhow, from the top article of OMG: 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >         Ekoore ship the Python S with a custom version of Ubuntu
> >         11.10 using GNOME Shell.
> >         
> >         Why Shell? Likely because GNOME-Shell is generally more
> >         ‘touch friendly’ than Unity. It has big chunky window
> >         controls; managing and opening apps via the Activities
> >         Overlay is easier, and, perhaps importantly, it sports an
> >         elegant pop-up on-screen keyboard in the form of ‘Caribou‘.
> >         
> >         Ubuntu on the other hand is a fiddle to
> >         use; Overlay-scrollbars are difficult to reveal/drag using a
> >         finger, as is un-hiding the Unity launcher; window controls
> >         are tiny; the ‘onboard’ screen keyboard is functional but
> >         not touch-orientated; switching between full-screen
> >         applications is difficult, etc.
> >         
> >         
> > I think this will be a likely response from Ekoore. But they might
> > offer similar suggestions for making Unity more touch-friendly.
> > Or was your point that they make ARM/x86 tablets? If they use
> > standard hardware (is there even standard hardware in tablets?) then
> > Ubuntu just needs to make it's software complaint with the hardware
> > as far as I'm concerned.
> > 
> > 
> > With metta, Chris
> > 
> > 
> > 2012/2/14 Николай Шатохин <n.shatokhin@xxxxxxxxx>
> > 
> >         They used Unity. But now they use Gnome 3 because it more
> >         convenient for finger usage. And you didn't understand me.
> >         They interesting in developing new line of ARM tablets with
> >         Ubuntu. And they can have some ideas.
> >         
> >         
> >         2012/2/13 Mitchell Reese <mitchell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >         
> >                 The Ekoore is a tablet... by those pictures in your
> >                 link they have also used Unity. I think they would
> >                 have some great insights. I never bought one as they
> >                 were expensive, heavy, and had sub-par (compared
> >                 with arm) battery life. Neat idea though. 
> >                 
> >                 
> >                 Curious Mail - Sent via Linux
> >                 
> >                 
> >                 Chris <cyber.druif@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >                 
> >                 
> >                 
> >                 The ekoore was a tablet with 3 operating systems?
> >                 Windows, Android and Ubuntu? If so, then I also
> >                 remember them using GNOME Shell in contrary to
> >                 Unity.
> >                 
> >                 And this link seems to support that fact:
> >                 www.omgubuntu.co.uk/?s=Ekoore
> >                 
> >                 Thoughts?
> >                 
> >                 With metta, Chris
> >                 
> >                 
> >                 On Feb 13, 2012 8:47 AM, "������� �������"
> >                 <n.shatokhin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >                 
> >                         I think, we must invite Ekoore
> >                         (info@xxxxxxxxxx) into discussion. They sell
> >                         x86 Ubuntu Tablet, so they can give advices
> >                         about interface and usability.
> >                         
> >                         
> >                         2012/2/11 Nicholas Shatokhin
> >                         <n.shatokhin@xxxxxxxxx>
> >                         
> >                                 We can use Kickstarter. We can
> >                                 design tablet, get money through
> >                                 Kickstarter and open startup that
> >                                 will develop this tablets.
> >                                 
> >                                 
> >                                 
> >                                 
> >                                 Fri, 10 Feb 2012 22:37:59 +0200 ����
> >                                 �������� Sandy Martin
> >                                 <siegfried_m22@xxxxxxxx>: 
> >                                 
> >                                 
> >                                 
> >                                 
> >                                         Ok working with any hardware
> >                                         company is a big step. For
> >                                         me the tablet need that
> >                                         cross between a casual
> >                                         tablet like and Android or
> >                                         Ipad. download apps and that
> >                                         almost touch pad OS like
> >                                         Ubuntu with u-touch. IMO
> >                                         that sells. we need to get
> >                                         app companies to port their
> >                                         stuff onto linux.
> >                                         
> >                                         
> >                                         
> >                                         ________________________________
> >                                         �From: brian mullan
> >                                         <bmullan.mail@xxxxxxxxx>
> >                                         To: Ian Santopietro
> >                                         <isantop@xxxxxxxxx>
> >                                         Cc:
> >                                         ubuntu-tablet@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >                                         Sent: Friday, February 10,
> >                                         2012 2:27:58 PM
> >                                         Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-tablet]
> >                                         Ubuntu tablet
> >                                         
> >                                         Is there data on tablet
> >                                         adoption rates that could
> >                                         show which to focus on and
> >                                         which have a common �cpu/gpu
> >                                         etc.
> >                                         
> >                                         I think the important focus
> >                                         is that its about "time to
> >                                         market". � �Who can get
> >                                         something that is BOTH user
> >                                         friendly and inexpensive
> >                                         etc.
> >                                         
> >                                         iPad has #1 but apple is a
> >                                         bit of a closed universe in
> >                                         hw & sw choice and because
> >                                         of that the Apple's ipad is
> >                                         very user friendly but it is
> >                                         pricey. � Their margin can
> >                                         erode with introduction of
> >                                         alternatives that offer
> >                                         similar
> >                                         capabilities/services but at
> >                                         a cheaper price per unit.
> >                                         
> >                                         I like the Barnes & Noble
> >                                         Nook Color tablet but
> >                                         Samsung's Galaxy & the ASUS
> >                                         tablets are very nice too.
> >                                         
> >                                         
> >                                         
> >                                         On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at
> >                                         12:01 PM, Ian Santopietro
> >                                         <isantop@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >                                         
> >                                         What in particular makes the
> >                                         new Prime less than ideal?
> >                                         It's got a
> >                                         
> >                                                 load of power, which
> >                                                 is also nice for
> >                                                 Ubuntu, and to my
> >                                                 knowledge the
> >                                                 only thing
> >                                                 software-wise is
> >                                                 that Ubuntu works on
> >                                                 Tegra 2 now. It
> >                                                 wasn't always the
> >                                                 case, and Tegra 3 is
> >                                                 becoming more and
> >                                                 more
> >                                                 ubiquitous. If we
> >                                                 went for a strictly
> >                                                 software support
> >                                                 perspective,
> >                                                 something based on
> >                                                 OMAP 4 would be much
> >                                                 better. Plus, from a
> >                                                 quality
> >                                                 standpoint, the
> >                                                 Prime beats the
> >                                                 original pretty
> >                                                 well, and it still
> >                                                 offers the keyboard
> >                                                 dock.
> >                                                 
> >                                                 Or, maybe both
> >                                                 tablets would be
> >                                                 good? A sort of
> >                                                 entry-level and
> >                                                 premium?
> >                                                 
> >                                                 (Don't read too much
> >                                                 into this. I'm sure
> >                                                 a lot of it is
> >                                                 simply because
> >                                                 I bought a Prime a
> >                                                 few weeks ago, and
> >                                                 would love to see
> >                                                 Ubuntu running
> >                                                 on it. :-) )
> >                                                 
> >                                                 
> >                                                 On Fri, Feb 10, 2012
> >                                                 at 09:18, Randall
> >                                                 Ross
> >                                                 <randall@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >                                                 
> >                                                         Thanks Alan.
> >                                                         Now we can
> >                                                         all get
> >                                                         hacking! ;)
> >                                                         
> >                                                         
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