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[Markus Burrer <mb@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Seriously? Sometimes I hate this "auto in the way" behavior. I'm using a
10" Tablet with Unity 2D and I like the onboard keyboard. There are
still some issues to fix and some features to add, but it's ok.


Am 30.03.2012 21:37, schrieb Ian Santopietro:
> I agree on some of your points, but then again, the OP has stated that
> a better on-screen keyboard is a must have for Ubuntu on any
> touchscreen.
>
> Currently, all of the on-screen keyboard utilities are aimed at a11y
> folks, which is fine, but what we need is an on-demand keyboard that
> always runs in the background, automatically pops up when focus is
> placed on a text field, then automatically dismisses itself when that
> focus is lost.
>
> On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 10:40, Henri Sundelin <henri.sundelin@xxxxxx> wrote:
>> A couple of comments:
>>
>> I'm not sure if the right approach is to copy _everything from other tablet
>> platforms. Fullscreen interface is one of those features I'm not so sure
>> about.
>>
>> This is because I see Ubuntu tablet as a device somewhere between a
>> full-blown tablet and a desktop. I myself like the possibility to use the
>> same device on road (or on sofa), and take it to work next morning - put it
>> to a dock and do work with keyboard & stuff. Is this case, the multitouch
>> screen gives some new ui possibilities - funnily I have lately found myself
>> poking the desktop's screen also...:)
>>
>> I think there could be approach to do both:
>> - Make sure all apps behave nice fullscreen
>> - Have option to auto full screen apps when using as tablet
>> - Unity multitouch gestures should in any case make it easy to work with
>> many windows. In addition to that I'd really like to see gestures work
>> switching through virtual desktops (ie one app/screen line Meego/Harmattan
>> has)
>>
>> //HS
>>
>>
>> On 26 Mar 2012, at 00:41, Николай Шатохин wrote:
>>
>> I hope Ubuntu Tablet will have a better interface. Multiwindow interface is
>> inconvinient on Tablets. Better is signlewindow interface with convinient
>> switcher between windows.
>>
>>
>> 2012/3/23 Henri Sundelin <henri.sundelin@xxxxxx>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> As I begun using my new tablet, I became more and more frustrated with the
>>> on screen keyboards currently available. The main issue is that keyboard
>>> “floats” on the screen, and typically bounces around the screen depending
>>> where you’re writing (unless you actually fix it to the screen, which IMHO
>>> sucks even more).
>>>
>>> This is something that Apple, Android, Nokia et al really do way better –
>>> the existing Linux solutions are just conceptual copies of similarly poor
>>> Windows solutions.
>>>
>>> One of the things I like in the iPad is that the keyboard pops always up
>>> from the bottom to the same full-width place – this enables you to lay your
>>> hands on the table and type. Good luck trying that on a “floating” keyboard.
>>> So, I thought I had to come up with something, at least in my opinion,
>>> better.
>>>
>>> In short, this is what I did:
>>>
>>> - I modified Onboard so that it always keeps at bottom at the same place,
>>> as wide as possible.
>>> - Auto-hide works as originally, utilizing at-spi
>>> - If editable field would be behind keyboard, we signal Compiz to move
>>> that window up so we can see what we edit.
>>> - After editing – or moving to different field, we restore previous window
>>> positions
>>>
>>> Here is a video file on how it works:
>>>
>>> http://users.tkk.fi/u/hsundeli/onboard_compiz.webm
>>>
>>> (framerate really sucks, but thats all the tablet can give.. key point
>>> here is that I’m not moving any windows, just changing the focus.)
>>>
>>> Technically, Onboard sends dbus messages to Compiz’s dbus & put plugins.
>>> Onboard stores state for what has been moved.
>>>
>>> I guess this solution is bit more “integrated” that what Linux community
>>> is used to, but that is how it has to be if a better user experience is to
>>> be desired. I have no idea if this is even possible in say Unity 2D.
>>>
>>> Code-wise I’m pondering what to do next – depends on what people think.
>>> Either make this a Onboard fork or merge to Onboard capabilities if there is
>>> sufficient interest..
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> //HS
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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