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[Timo Jyrinki <timo.jyrinki@xxxxxxxxx>]

Regarding the original description everything and more has been done in
language-selector, update-manager and ubiquity. There could be some more
ideas for enhancement, but they are worth new bugs.

** Changed in: update-manager (Ubuntu)
       Status: Incomplete => Fix Released

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https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/434173

Title:
  [karmic] Regression from 9.04 in getting fully translated Ubuntu
  installation

Status in Ubuntu language selector:
  Fix Released
Status in Ubuntu Translations:
  Fix Released
Status in “pkgsel” package in Ubuntu:
  Fix Released
Status in “ubiquity” package in Ubuntu:
  Fix Released
Status in “update-manager” package in Ubuntu:
  Fix Released
Status in “pkgsel” source package in Karmic:
  Fix Released
Status in “ubiquity” source package in Karmic:
  Fix Released
Status in “update-manager” source package in Karmic:
  Won't Fix

Bug description:
  Because of moving a lot of translations and spell-checking
  functionality from language-support-xxx packages to language-selector,
  users currently installing Ubuntu 9.10 are getting inferior experience
  compared with 9.04. The installer does not anymore install many
  translations, help files or in some cases spell-checkers. Launching
  language-selector manually after installation works as it should, but
  I assume only a minority of ordinary users will manually open the
  utility before getting a bad experience.

  I also argue that any notification that would be displayed (currently
  it seems not, tested on daily 20090921 image in virtualbox) will not
  get the wanted "click me" effect for enough users, so only a truly
  automatic way would be needed to match Ubuntu 9.04. It should also be
  error-proof, so it's not just a one-time tryout after installation
  which would fail in case of no Internet connectivity etc.

  Specifically in case of Finnish, because of how bug #409764 was
  handled (dependency removed from language-support-writing-fi, moved to
  manual checking in language-selector), Finnish users of 9.10 are
  currently missing out the most important part of spell-checking - the
  one in OpenOffice.org. Also missing is Firefox spell-checking, in
  addition to the documentation etc. common to all languages.

  My completely-idea-level proposal (without full knowledge of possible discussions/plans behind this move in 9.10) would be:
  a) Installer would co-operate with language-selector to install everything during installation time, if Internet connection happens to be enabled (something like language-selector --fix-missing)
  b) After installation, update-manager (?) would make certain the whole language support is downloaded together with first updates succesfully (one time, but so that it ends in non-error)

  In theory I like how language-selector is used to keep sure of proper
  language support, but IMHO proper co-operation between installer and
  update-manager (just one candidate) plus language-selector is needed.

  So the question also is - against which packages this bug should be
  filed. Language-selector could need some new functionality, but maybe
  it's all there already ready to be used by other applications.
  Ubiquity? Update-manager?

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