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[Michael Gilbert <michael.s.gilbert@xxxxxxxxx>]

On Thu, 21 Oct 2010 22:57:43 -0400 Michael Gilbert wrote:

> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 9:00 PM, Joseph Zitt wrote:
> > Y'see, I'm a big Linux aficionado, but this is the kind of thing that really
> > bugs me about Ubuntu (and Linux in general). There's the big drumroll
> > leading up to the release, the excited reviews about how wonderful things
> > are, the excitement of downloading and installing the new versio... and then
> > it doesn't work, and I ask questions, and I get "Well, yeah, that's really
> > buggy. Go back to the old version."
> >
> > I understand that Ubuntu has a widely touted process of alphas and betas and
> > release candidates and all that... but we have these failures all the time.
> >
> > What can be done so that there's a dependable testing process? Does anyone
> > take pride in and ownership of the new releases? Do we really expect to
> > reach World Dominiation if the user experience has these hurdles?
> >
> > My unfortunate experience is that when I want excitement and to feel like
> > I'm Doing The Right Thing, I use Linux. But when I'm facing deadlines and
> > need productivity without either excuses or detours to work around stuff
> > that I can't aford to have broken, I have to depend on something else.
> >
> > How can this be made better?
> 
> Unfortunately Canonical chooses to base their releases off of an
> unstable codebase.  They do this in order to ensure that they have the
> latest shiny, which  they think is the key to winning the market.
> 
> I've always wanted them to base their releases off of Debian's stable
> codebase (with a modest sprinkling of the latest shiny).  But I highly
> doubt the current process is going to change.
> 
> In the meantime, you can choose Debian stable.  The problem is its not
> quite as shiny since its intended to just work, rather than work with
> lots of bling.  The Another downside is that Debian community is even
> more technical/unforgiving.
> 
> As for your technical issues, here's some info on the numlock startup state:
> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=16891
> 
> Anyway, I hope this helps a little bit.  Best of luck with your Linux endeavors.

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Gilbert