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[Mark Curtis <merkinman@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Removing "Restart" would cause a lot of people to be upset.  Not only 
since "Restart" is a pretty basic function, but that it'd be confusing 
that after a kernel update it says the computer must be restarted, when 
the option would no longer be there.  Even if the user were to figure 
out to  "shut down" then press the power button, it's an extra step.

> From: remco47@xxxxxxxxx
> Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 21:13:28 +0200
> To: alex.launi@xxxxxxxxx
> CC: ayatana@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [Ayatana] Lock Screen / Guest Session / Switch From / Log Out /	Suspend / Hibernate / Shut Down
> 
> On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 19:54, Alex Launi <alex.launi@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Any easy fix to remedy part of the situation would be to remove the Guest
> > session button and move that into the 'Switch from' window.
> 
> That sounds alright. Choosing the mysterious "Guest Session" is
> conceptually the same as switching to a brand new temporary account.
> It may actually be easier to understand if this option is offered and
> explained on the Switch From screen.
> 
> * Log Out
> 
> "Log Out" can be removed by default. Most systems are single-user
> systems, so there's no need to close a session but not a computer.
> Even on family systems with multiple users, the computer will not be
> running when there is no session. Switching to another user can be
> done with "Switch From". The need for "Log Out" is for situations
> where the machines are just terminals, such as universities and
> internet shops. These computers are never shut down, so "Log Out"
> would replace "Shut Down".
> 
> * Suspend / Hibernate
> 
> I don't think both options should be there. There should be a single
> option called "sleep", which does either one of them, or both,
> depending on the capabilities of the system and user preference. Sleep
> should not go away entirely, because not every computer has a special
> sleep button. Desktops and tablets for example. Laptops and netbooks
> may have the ability to go to sleep when the lid is closed, but I find
> that a bad functionality, because then you can't just close your
> laptop to make some room while it is doing an upgrade or burning a CD.
> 
> * Restart
> 
> This can go away, too. It's the equivalent of shutting down and then
> pressing the power button. Ubuntu should make it easy to understand
> that the computer has shut down, by providing a graphic, and it should
> be fast enough (less than 5 seconds), so users are not waiting
> needlessly to press the power button again. Update-manager can of
> course offer a restart button in case of kernel upgrades. Even better
> would be to use ksplice, so that reboots are never needed.
> 
> So, then we're left with:
> 
> Lock Screen
> Switch From john
> -------------
> Sleep
> Shut Down
> 
> Or "Log Out" for that last one, depending on the setting. Now, that's clean!
> 
> -- 
> Remco
> 
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