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[Jason DeRose <jderose@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 2:03 PM, frederik.nnaji@xxxxxxxxx <
frederik.nnaji@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hi Jean, thanks for your thoughts on this!
>
> On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 14:41, Jean Levasseur <levasseur.jean@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>
>> 2010/12/21 Frederik Nnaji <frederik.nnaji@xxxxxxxxx>
>>
>> On Sun, 2010-12-12 at 17:56 +0000, Chris Wilson wrote:
>>> > Personally, if I were to click on a button labeled 'Photos and
>>> > Videos', I would expect to find those files there rather than editors,
>>> > etc.
>>>
>>
>> [...] 2 things: first, there are good content management software for both
>> music (rhythmbox, banshee) and photos (f-spot, shotwell) but none for
>> videos.  For videos, there are just players as far as I know.
>>
>
> Jason, would you like to say something at this point?
>

Yes I do! Thanks, Frederik!

For what it's worth, dmedia will shortly have nice video management.  This
is a preview of the HTML5 UI that James Raymond has been working on -
http://cdn.novacut.com/dmedia0.2-preview/browser.html

But more generally, I'm hoping dmedia can help get this important user data
(and metadata) out of application-specific silos.  This fits well with the
overall Ayatana focus on the "space between applications".  For example, I'd
like to see cool social features integrated with dmedia, which would allow
this social use in any context, not just in the context of a single
application (Banshee, Shotwell, etc).

I think the use case Frederick brought up is ripe with possibility.  The
problem I see with *only* relying on domain specific manager apps is when
the "stuff" you're looking for spans multiple domains.  For example, I think
Zeitgeist has clearly demonstrated the value of an aggregate chronological
view.  And I think that view needs to be more than just a list of recently
accessed media files... we need the metadata too.  With rich metadata (like
what dmedia stores), we can be much smarted about how and what we present in
a chronological view.

I think the content rather than application focus is a very exciting idea,
Frederick.  If you have ideas about specific metadata that would be needed
for the use case you have in mind, I'd happily add it to dmedia.

Plus, dmedia is a *distributed* media library.  We can provide an aggregate
view into the user's content and activity across *all* their devices, which
is pretty cool, IMHO.  This bug is probably the best explanation of the core
distributed features, the metadata we will store to enable it -
https://bugs.launchpad.net/dmedia/+bug/680467


> I know banshee has a video library, and banshee being now the default music
>> library software in Ubuntu it might as well serve as the default video
>> player/manager in Ubuntu as well.  Next, photo management software often
>> offers several ways to modify their content, on the contrary of the other
>> content management softwares that are just that: library management and
>> player.  That might be a reason people get confused when they access
>> shotwell or f-spot: they think those are primarly photo editors rather than
>> photo managers.
>>
>
> yes, i think you're right. people want to read their email, so they click
> on "Email", or any other icon that makes them believe they will find email
> by touching it.
> Clicking is the next best thing to touching.
>
> If you click "Music", and you're confronted with a couple of different
> apps, then something is wrong.
>