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[Jeremy Nickurak <jeremy@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Another option, that might not be any more practical than factoring out
evolution's mail-checking code:

- Fix mail-notification's ssl issues by switching to gnutls
- Get mail-notification using the messaging menu instead of the notification
area
(Optionally) - Let evolution export account settings so mail-notification
runs automatically.

On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 17:27, Conscious User <conscioususer@xxxxxxx> wrote:

>
> Hi all,
>
> Let me start the discussion by saying I agree with Matthew:
>
>
> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection-desktop-n-coherent-behavior-for-apps-in-messagingmenu
> http://design.canonical.com/2011/03/quit/
> "The engineering solution here is for messaging clients to
> split out the code that checks for new messages, so that it
> can optionally run even while the rest of the application
> is not."
>
> However, I don't think this separation is coming
> anytime soon. Meanwhile, for several releases now
> Evolution is being the only inconsistent application in
> the Messaging Menu, the only that quits on close, the
> only one that needs to be present on both the MM and the
> taskbar (soon to be Unity Launcher).
>
> Thunderbird is getting Messaging Menu support with the
> exact same problem, and to make things worse we will now
> not only have redundancy of presence, but also redundancy
> of information presentation:
>
>
> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~indicator-applet-developers/evolution-indicator/trunk/revision/77
> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/03/thunderbird-getting-some-unity-love/
>
> Evolution/Thunderbird should be on the launcher, or the
> messaging menu, but *not* on both of them.
>
> I don't expect a patch that modularizes Evolution or
> Thunderbird dropping from the sky, so we need a short
> term solution instead of continuing to ship the
> current, horribly redundant, situation.
>
> My suggestion is to either accept Geoff Goehle's patch:
>
>
> https://code.launchpad.net/~goehle/evolution-indicator/dont-quit-on-close/+merge/42151
>
> or to remove Evolution from the Messaging Menu entirely,
> as it can be argued that email is not something you
> should be interested in being constantly notified
> about anyway and Evolution consumes a lot of memory.
> (see pitti's comments in the first link)
>
> Thoughts?
>
>
>
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