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[James Gifford <james@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I think that proves their too fast then. 

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James Gifford
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On Apr 7, 2011, at 18:08, Carl Simpson <cwd.simpson@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> There is.  They fade out.
> 
> 2011/4/6 Ian Santopietro <isantop@xxxxxxxxx>
> Ah, I see that now. There isn't a default close animation though, at least not for normal windows.
> 
> 
> On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 07:22, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen <mikkel.kamstrup@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Wed, 2011-04-06 at 07:05 -0600, Ian Santopietro wrote:
> > If you're having trouble seeing the animations, you might try setting
> > a slow keybpard shortcut in the composite plugin settings.
> >
> > Actually, I really like the speed of the Ubuntu animations. The
> > windows animations are definitely too slow, and sometimes I feel like
> > I have to wait for the animation.
> >
> > That said, I don't think there is an open animation by default. This
> > could definitely be changed. Just make sure it's fast. 120 Ms is a
> > great speed.
> 
> There is an open animation. Fading in for 80ms. And I guess what I see
> in my system - that accounting for a pretty massive frame dropping then
> a 80ms animation might never hit the screen. Or worse, be a 1-2 frame
> flicker.
> 
> Other people interested in playing with this can hit alt-f2 and type
> "about:config". Then find the Animation plugin and tune your animation
> times to 300ms or something where you can definitely perceive the
> animations.
> 
> I am totally with you - animations must be very quick subtle hints. What
> needs consideration is why we drop frames.
> 
> Cheers,
> Mikkel
> 
> > On Apr 6, 2011 1:55 AM, "Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen"
> > <mikkel.kamstrup@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > On Wed, 2011-04-06 at 01:25 -0400, Melvin Garcia wrote:
> > >> Hi guys/gals. My name is Melvin Garcia, and I'm new to the list.
> > >>
> > >> I was comparing Mac's Quartz and Windows' Aero animations to
> > Ubuntu's
> > >> default animation settings and noticed a few things. First of all
> > >> Ubuntu's animations are too fast, to the point of being almost
> > >> invisible and in some cases totally invisible.
> > >>
> > >> Quartz and Aero both feature elegant, smooth animations. They catch
> > >> the eye in a pleasant way, but are unobtrusive at the same time. I
> > >> believe the current Unity experience, which is very elegant could
> > be
> > >> enhanced by slower, smoother animations. Glide 2 is not meant for
> > >> "open animation", the window doesn't fade in, it just appears and
> > >> animates very quickly. Glide 1, fade or zoom are better suited for
> > >> this event. These animations feature a nice "fade in" effect
> > enhancing
> > >> the experience.
> > >>
> > >> "Close animation" should have animations which feature "fade out",
> > >> Glide 2, fade and zoom all work well here.
> > >>
> > >> I know having faster animations can make the system feel faster,
> > but
> > >> what's the point in having animations when the user can't
> > appreciate
> > >> them? Windows has smooth open, close and minimize animations and
> > yet,
> > >> the system feels fast. Desktop animations shouldn't be too slow nor
> > >> too fast, they have to walk right in between.
> > >
> > > Interesting. I didn't even know we had window animations; I don't
> > see
> > > any.
> > >
> > > Or actually now that you point it out - if I focus very hard I think
> > I
> > > can see the fade in when mapping them. But I may be imagining that.
> > >
> > > This could just be an effect of frame dropping (I have i945 which is
> > > renowned for spectacularly bad performance :-)). But still; this
> > used to
> > > work with the 0.8 series of Compiz. I guess we need some graphics
> > > experts to weigh in.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Mikkel
> > >
> > >
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