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indicators vs launchers

 

in Unity, shouldn't the Messaging menu indicator appear only once a
messaging application is up and running? i have neither a mail app nor an
instant messaging app running at the moment, still the envelope appears in
the panel.
While it improves discoverability for the launchers in the menu, it makes
discoverability as an indicator of transient events worse.

it also clutters the users mental model of how to launch apps and how to use
indicators in relation.

i'd suggest put Chat, Mail and Broadcast into the Unity Launcher and add a
confirmation dialog to the removal option (Keep In Launcher).
So when somebody unticks "Keep In Launcher", she is asked to confirm that.

The envelope makes more sense when a messaging related app is running, imo.

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