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[Gino Vincenzini <openmysourcecode@xxxxxxxxx>]

Let me bring some clarity. First of all It's actually the opposite problem
with Christianity vs Non-theism as you call it. Everyone is trying to make
theism in general and Christianity in particular illegal outside of
churches. As for your atheism Jo, I demand you keep it to yourself. I've
not mentioned my Christianity once on this mailing list nor how I really
feel about atheism and I find your comments about religious people in
general and Christians in particular highly offensive. I would argue that
atheists suffer from a delusion but this is not the time nor the place for
this at all..

As far as an app coming up in featured areas called "PornView"; That needs
to not happen because it is embarrassing and only hurts our cause in
spreading an alternative to windows and mac. If the user wants to use
ubuntu for porn, be my guest. but references to porn should have to be
sought out, not displayed for all to see. It's not censorship as it's
correctly spelled, but appropriateness.

Nobody is demanding that ubuntu not carry adult themed apps. That said,
it's highly advised that since our audience is so very very broad, that we
don't advertise them under "featured apps" or "also available for
download". My android phone doesn't do that in the android market either
and neither should ubuntu.

And Ryan Gauger, This is not the space for proselytizing either. If God
decides that you are to lead him to Christ, He has also decreed exactly how
that should happen and will bring him to you, and prompt you to preach the
gospel and will do the miraculous work of regeneration required to make him
the new creature required for him to respond in repentance.

Gino

On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 10:36 PM, Ryan Gauger <rtgkid@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> On 02/23/2012 09:32 PM, Jeremy Bicha wrote:
>
>> On 23 February 2012 22:25, Ryan Gauger<rtgkid@xxxxxxxxx>  wrote:
>>
>>> On 02/23/2012 09:18 PM, Dub wrote:
>>>
>>> As much as I love reading GIANT emails from religious people, I think
>>> this
>>> should be closed as it was solved.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 11:13 PM, Ryan Gauger<rtgkid@xxxxxxxxx>  wrote:
>>>
>>>>  On 02/23/2012 07:14 PM, Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 24. feb. 2012 01:53, Colton Allen wrote:
>>>>
>>>> So yeah, an app called "Porn View" showed up while I was demoing Ubuntu
>>>> to
>>>> a friend.  Despite the brief embarrassment and explanations, I doubt
>>>> that
>>>> person will take Ubuntu seriously.  We should probably restrict
>>>> pornographic
>>>> apps to the store and keep the lenses PG.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps we should remove the Bible apps as well then. I find it
>>>> seriously
>>>> offensive. But maybe it's only nature that's unholy? USA are now making
>>>> it
>>>> illegal to teach the history of racism. They are also trying to make it
>>>> illegal to teach non-theism.
>>>>
>>>> We should not forbid other peoples wishes because of ancient beliefs in
>>>> witches and weird stuff. If Ubuntu starts to sensor things, it will no
>>>> doubt
>>>> be my reason to not only drop out, but become an extremely verbal enemy.
>>>>
>>>> What if we sell books, should Lady Chatterley's Lover be forbidden
>>>> because
>>>> it might not be perfectly suitable to children or fanatical christians?
>>>> I
>>>> will never, ever be a part of anything remotely similar to that. Present
>>>> your next idea.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Jo-Erlend Schinstad
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I definitely agree with the idea that we should eliminate pornographic
>>>> apps from "Apps Available for Download". That being said, I find it
>>>> seriously offensive that you want to remove Bible apps. Nature itself is
>>>> unholy. People are also unholy. I am unholy. No one but the Lord, Jesus
>>>> Christ is holy. I find it seriously offensive that you wish to remove
>>>> Christian Apps from that list. I am not just saying this because it
>>>> offends
>>>> me, I am saying this because (I understand that people from this list
>>>> are
>>>> from all around the world) people from other countries probably don't
>>>> know
>>>> this, but the United States was built upon Christianity. Now, the very
>>>> people who built America would not recognise it because of all of the
>>>> "politically-correctness" that is going on in America. A ton of public
>>>> places (like public schools) try their best to keep Christianity out of
>>>> them.
>>>>
>>>> I can also tell you that I cannot find the love and peace that I can in
>>>> Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ is not just my God, he is also yours, and
>>>> everybody's. You and everybody else can reject Him and tell me that He
>>>> is
>>>> not real, but how could I be an accident (if you are an atheist)? Give
>>>> me
>>>> just one time where you felt the love of your god. Just one. If you
>>>> tell me
>>>> that you are a Christian, you obviously are just saying that, because a
>>>> true
>>>> Christian knows how important it is to spread the Good News (which is
>>>> that
>>>> Jesus Christ was born in a little manger, died a horrible death on the
>>>> cross
>>>> for our sins, and ROSE FROM THE GRAVE. He did this all for us. He did
>>>> this
>>>> because He loved us. Nails were hammered into His flesh and through His
>>>> hands and feet. His last words on the cross were "It is finished.". I
>>>> hope
>>>> that you and everyone else on this list has read this and sort of
>>>> understands what I am getting at.
>>>>
>>>> If you want to follow Christ forever and stay with Him forever after you
>>>> die, here is what you must do, but the choice is yours, not mine:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Admit to God that you are a sinner. "For all have sinned and fall
>>>> short
>>>> of the Glory of God." - Romans 3:23. This includes EVERYBODY: ME, YOU,
>>>> EVERYBODY ON THIS PLANET). If you do not understand what sin is, you do
>>>> it
>>>> everyday without thinking about it, and so do I. It is basically
>>>> anything
>>>> you do that is wrong. For example (I am just stating these as an
>>>> example, I
>>>> am not saying that you have done them): murder, stealing, lying (a big
>>>> one,
>>>> we all lie), just to name a few, but there are a ton more.
>>>>
>>>> 2. TRULY believe that God sent Jesus Christ to be your Lord and Saviour.
>>>> Read the paragraph above. Adding to that paragraph: He also performed
>>>> miracles to show how truly great He was and still is. He turned water
>>>> into
>>>> wine in literally A SECOND. Say you don't believe me, but you probably
>>>> will
>>>> once you read this: He made you and me. He made everything that is on
>>>> earth
>>>> (everything expect for man-made objects, including pornography which we
>>>> all
>>>> want to remove from the dash). Other man-made objects include all
>>>> buildings.
>>>>
>>>> 3. Confess your faith in Jesus Christ as your Lord and Saviour. This
>>>> does
>>>> mean publicly professing that you are a Christian and that the Lord has
>>>> come
>>>> into your heart and soul. It is hard to do for some people, but you
>>>> need to
>>>> do this in order to be saved. (The term here "saved" means saved from
>>>> spending eternity in Hell, which is what people do when they choose to
>>>> not
>>>> follow Jesus.)
>>>>
>>>> Do this, and I guarantee you will feel a lot better. You will have a
>>>> sense
>>>> of peace come over you in the worst situations like no other. You will
>>>> know
>>>> it is Jesus. You will also be comforted knowing that Jesus is in your
>>>> life.
>>>> Christianity is like no other religion. Other religions require that
>>>> you do
>>>> as their god says or else something bad will happen to you and you will
>>>> be
>>>> punished. Christianity is a relationship between you and God. This will
>>>> be a
>>>> mouthful: Jesus, God, and the Holy Spirit are all the same, yet they are
>>>> different at the same time. This is usually very complicated for
>>>> everyone to
>>>> understand. God sent His one and only Son, Jesus to die on the cross.
>>>> Even
>>>> though Jesus is God, they are still the different. All three of these
>>>> (God,
>>>> Jesus, and the Holy Spirit) have different jobs. The Holy Spirit is the
>>>> one
>>>> who changes you and helps you to become a Christian by working in your
>>>> heart. Jesus Christ is God's Son who died on the cross for you. God is
>>>> both
>>>> our and Jesus' Father. He is our Heavenly Father, meaning that He is
>>>> not our
>>>> physical "on-earth" father. You do not necessarily need to fully
>>>> understand
>>>> this before becoming a Christian, Jesus will help you understand after
>>>> you
>>>> become a Christian.
>>>>
>>>> Please be careful: some people believe that being baptised makes you a
>>>> Christian. It does not. It is a way of showing others you are a
>>>> Christian.
>>>> You can do this after you become a Christian if you like, though it is
>>>> not
>>>> required. I hope you chose to follow the steps I provided. Please
>>>> remember,
>>>> it is a simple, yet complicated choice: do you want to go to Heaven or
>>>> Hell?
>>>> Do you want to live your life following Jesus and letting Him lead you
>>>> to
>>>> the places you need to be, or would you rather live your life in a
>>>> cloudy
>>>> environment, where voices all over tell you what you should do (but
>>>> what is
>>>> actually what will get you in trouble)? What will your choice be? Will
>>>> you
>>>> choose to follow Jesus? I did and was changed on the inside and out. I
>>>> was a
>>>> completely new person. All Christians still sin, since they are humans
>>>> (read
>>>> the verse above), but Christians sin a whole lot less. I hope you have
>>>> taken
>>>> time out of your day to read this and have also decided to follow Jesus
>>>> Christ and to accept Him as your Lord and Saviour.
>>>>
>>>> In Christ,
>>>> Ryan
>>>>
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>>>>  I also think that this should (if it is closed) be read by other
>>> people.
>>> ---I am not religious. I am simply a person who cares about other
>>> people. I
>>> care about people in this way because I do not want them to take a
>>> vacation
>>> (a bad one, and for eternity) to Hell. Would you like to ask Jesus into
>>> your
>>> heart? I can see that you probably not a Christian since you called me
>>> directly a "religious person". Thanks!
>>>
>> You're absolutely correct. Real Christians would never call another
>> Real Christian a "religious person."
>>
>> Posting multiple times to software development mailing lists is also
>> the best way to increase the number of Real Christians in the world,
>> so I'm glad you're doing the right thing!
>>
> Thanks!
>
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