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Re: Remove Pornographic Apps from the "Apps available for download"


On 02/23/2012 10:02 PM, Gino Vincenzini wrote:
Let me bring some clarity. First of all It's actually the opposite problem with Christianity vs Non-theism as you call it. Everyone is trying to make theism in general and Christianity in particular illegal outside of churches. As for your atheism Jo, I demand you keep it to yourself. I've not mentioned my Christianity once on this mailing list nor how I really feel about atheism and I find your comments about religious people in general and Christians in particular highly offensive. I would argue that atheists suffer from a delusion but this is not the time nor the place for this at all..

As far as an app coming up in featured areas called "PornView"; That needs to not happen because it is embarrassing and only hurts our cause in spreading an alternative to windows and mac. If the user wants to use ubuntu for porn, be my guest. but references to porn should have to be sought out, not displayed for all to see. It's not censorship as it's correctly spelled, but appropriateness.

Nobody is demanding that ubuntu not carry adult themed apps. That said, it's highly advised that since our audience is so very very broad, that we don't advertise them under "featured apps" or "also available for download". My android phone doesn't do that in the android market either and neither should ubuntu.

And Ryan Gauger, This is not the space for proselytizing either. If God decides that you are to lead him to Christ, He has also decreed exactly how that should happen and will bring him to you, and prompt you to preach the gospel and will do the miraculous work of regeneration required to make him the new creature required for him to respond in repentance.


On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 10:36 PM, Ryan Gauger <rtgkid@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:rtgkid@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

    On 02/23/2012 09:32 PM, Jeremy Bicha wrote:

        On 23 February 2012 22:25, Ryan Gauger<rtgkid@xxxxxxxxx
        <mailto:rtgkid@xxxxxxxxx>>  wrote:

            On 02/23/2012 09:18 PM, Dub wrote:

            As much as I love reading GIANT emails from religious
            people, I think this
            should be closed as it was solved.

            On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 11:13 PM, Ryan
            Gauger<rtgkid@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:rtgkid@xxxxxxxxx>>  wrote:

                 On 02/23/2012 07:14 PM, Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote:

                On 24. feb. 2012 01:53, Colton Allen wrote:

                So yeah, an app called "Porn View" showed up while I
                was demoing Ubuntu to
                a friend.  Despite the brief embarrassment and
                explanations, I doubt that
                person will take Ubuntu seriously.  We should probably
                restrict pornographic
                apps to the store and keep the lenses PG.

                Perhaps we should remove the Bible apps as well then.
                I find it seriously
                offensive. But maybe it's only nature that's unholy?
                USA are now making it
                illegal to teach the history of racism. They are also
                trying to make it
                illegal to teach non-theism.

                We should not forbid other peoples wishes because of
                ancient beliefs in
                witches and weird stuff. If Ubuntu starts to sensor
                things, it will no doubt
                be my reason to not only drop out, but become an
                extremely verbal enemy.

                What if we sell books, should Lady Chatterley's Lover
                be forbidden because
                it might not be perfectly suitable to children or
                fanatical christians? I
                will never, ever be a part of anything remotely
                similar to that. Present
                your next idea.

                Jo-Erlend Schinstad

                I definitely agree with the idea that we should
                eliminate pornographic
                apps from "Apps Available for Download". That being
                said, I find it
                seriously offensive that you want to remove Bible
                apps. Nature itself is
                unholy. People are also unholy. I am unholy. No one
                but the Lord, Jesus
                Christ is holy. I find it seriously offensive that you
                wish to remove
                Christian Apps from that list. I am not just saying
                this because it offends
                me, I am saying this because (I understand that people
                from this list are
                from all around the world) people from other countries
                probably don't know
                this, but the United States was built upon
                Christianity. Now, the very
                people who built America would not recognise it
                because of all of the
                "politically-correctness" that is going on in America.
                A ton of public
                places (like public schools) try their best to keep
                Christianity out of

                I can also tell you that I cannot find the love and
                peace that I can in
                Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ is not just my God, he is
                also yours, and
                everybody's. You and everybody else can reject Him and
                tell me that He is
                not real, but how could I be an accident (if you are
                an atheist)? Give me
                just one time where you felt the love of your god.
                Just one. If you tell me
                that you are a Christian, you obviously are just
                saying that, because a true
                Christian knows how important it is to spread the Good
                News (which is that
                Jesus Christ was born in a little manger, died a
                horrible death on the cross
                for our sins, and ROSE FROM THE GRAVE. He did this all
                for us. He did this
                because He loved us. Nails were hammered into His
                flesh and through His
                hands and feet. His last words on the cross were "It
                is finished.". I hope
                that you and everyone else on this list has read this
                and sort of
                understands what I am getting at.

                If you want to follow Christ forever and stay with Him
                forever after you
                die, here is what you must do, but the choice is
                yours, not mine:

                1. Admit to God that you are a sinner. "For all have
                sinned and fall short
                of the Glory of God." - Romans 3:23. This includes
                EVERYBODY: ME, YOU,
                EVERYBODY ON THIS PLANET). If you do not understand
                what sin is, you do it
                everyday without thinking about it, and so do I. It is
                basically anything
                you do that is wrong. For example (I am just stating
                these as an example, I
                am not saying that you have done them): murder,
                stealing, lying (a big one,
                we all lie), just to name a few, but there are a ton more.

                2. TRULY believe that God sent Jesus Christ to be your
                Lord and Saviour.
                Read the paragraph above. Adding to that paragraph: He
                also performed
                miracles to show how truly great He was and still is.
                He turned water into
                wine in literally A SECOND. Say you don't believe me,
                but you probably will
                once you read this: He made you and me. He made
                everything that is on earth
                (everything expect for man-made objects, including
                pornography which we all
                want to remove from the dash). Other man-made objects
                include all buildings.

                3. Confess your faith in Jesus Christ as your Lord and
                Saviour. This does
                mean publicly professing that you are a Christian and
                that the Lord has come
                into your heart and soul. It is hard to do for some
                people, but you need to
                do this in order to be saved. (The term here "saved"
                means saved from
                spending eternity in Hell, which is what people do
                when they choose to not
                follow Jesus.)

                Do this, and I guarantee you will feel a lot better.
                You will have a sense
                of peace come over you in the worst situations like no
                other. You will know
                it is Jesus. You will also be comforted knowing that
                Jesus is in your life.
                Christianity is like no other religion. Other
                religions require that you do
                as their god says or else something bad will happen to
                you and you will be
                punished. Christianity is a relationship between you
                and God. This will be a
                mouthful: Jesus, God, and the Holy Spirit are all the
                same, yet they are
                different at the same time. This is usually very
                complicated for everyone to
                understand. God sent His one and only Son, Jesus to
                die on the cross. Even
                though Jesus is God, they are still the different. All
                three of these (God,
                Jesus, and the Holy Spirit) have different jobs. The
                Holy Spirit is the one
                who changes you and helps you to become a Christian by
                working in your
                heart. Jesus Christ is God's Son who died on the cross
                for you. God is both
                our and Jesus' Father. He is our Heavenly Father,
                meaning that He is not our
                physical "on-earth" father. You do not necessarily
                need to fully understand
                this before becoming a Christian, Jesus will help you
                understand after you
                become a Christian.

                Please be careful: some people believe that being
                baptised makes you a
                Christian. It does not. It is a way of showing others
                you are a Christian.
                You can do this after you become a Christian if you
                like, though it is not
                required. I hope you chose to follow the steps I
                provided. Please remember,
                it is a simple, yet complicated choice: do you want to
                go to Heaven or Hell?
                Do you want to live your life following Jesus and
                letting Him lead you to
                the places you need to be, or would you rather live
                your life in a cloudy
                environment, where voices all over tell you what you
                should do (but what is
                actually what will get you in trouble)? What will your
                choice be? Will you
                choose to follow Jesus? I did and was changed on the
                inside and out. I was a
                completely new person. All Christians still sin, since
                they are humans (read
                the verse above), but Christians sin a whole lot less.
                I hope you have taken
                time out of your day to read this and have also
                decided to follow Jesus
                Christ and to accept Him as your Lord and Saviour.

                In Christ,

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            I also think that this should (if it is closed) be read by
            other people.
            ---I am not religious. I am simply a person who cares
            about other people. I
            care about people in this way because I do not want them
            to take a vacation
            (a bad one, and for eternity) to Hell. Would you like to
            ask Jesus into your
            heart? I can see that you probably not a Christian since
            you called me
            directly a "religious person". Thanks!

        You're absolutely correct. Real Christians would never call
        Real Christian a "religious person."

        Posting multiple times to software development mailing lists
        is also
        the best way to increase the number of Real Christians in the
        so I'm glad you're doing the right thing!


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It is the space if Jesus tells me to do so on this mailing list. I am with you, it has nothing to do with the discussion now, but Jesus gives all Christians permission to (and actually tells them to in the Bible) "spread the Good News to all nations of the world". I do not have my Bible, but there is a verse in the Bible which basically states this.


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