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[Evan Huus <eapache@xxxxxxxxx>]

There was a thread on this issue back in October [1]. It resulted in a
design proposal [2].

As far as I know, the design is mostly finished and simply needs
implementation. MPT can probably clarify.

Evan

[1] https://lists.launchpad.net/unity-design/msg06892.html
[2] https://live.gnome.org/Design/SystemSettings/Proposals/LoginItems

On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 4:40 PM, Dylan McCall <dylanmccall@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 12:59 PM, Jo-Erlend Schinstad
> <joerlend.schinstad@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Den 03. mars 2012 02:27, skrev Andrew Starr-Bochicchio:
> >
> >> Adding a startup application is not something an average user would
> >> want to do. Applications that have a reason to start with the session
> >> should add themselves to that list. The "average user" task is to
> >> enable or disable a start up application.
> >
> >
> > I completely disagree with that. For instance, you might want to have IM
> > available at all times. Or your email client, or web feed reader. Yes, it
> > would be better if applications added themselves, but in any case, you
> would
> > never want to auto-start a video-file at startup. This is no doubt a bug.
> > When you want to add an application, only applications should be shown,
> not
> > the recently used media files.
> >
> > Setting an application to start automatically is something anyone and
> almost
> > everyone should want to do.
>
> Also, let's keep in mind how Startup Applications presents itself at
> the moment. Uninteresting startup applications are hidden from the
> list to make it easier for end users to cope with, and by default I
> think there are two items listed there. The only thing an end user
> _can_ do is add an application.
>
> The applications that can appear by default in Startup Applications
> are there because of their .desktop files. They are listed with icons,
> descriptions and full names. The underlying command is not visible
> until you edit an item, and the icon is inferred from the command.
>
> The easiest way to add an application is to drag its launcher
> (.desktop file) to the list. This automatically adds it, along with an
> icon. (Note there's a regression here, because it used to be possible
> to drag from the GNOME Panel's main menu).
> The immediately obvious way to add an application is completely
> different: you have to manually enter a name and a command, and you
> get a Browse button because you probably aren't looking for a command,
> but a shell script.
>
> I think this tool is pretty broken right now, because it seems to have
> no idea who its audience is. Judging by recent changes, I am guessing
> it aims to be a non-technical tool. I think technical users would be
> better served with something else.
>
> Dylan
>
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