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[shane lee <shaneymail@xxxxxxxxx>]

Also, there would need to be a solution for dealing with menus in small
windows.
Would the menus be truncated or maybe compacted into a LIM style menu then?
Though the latter idea would probably over complicate matters somewhat and
maybe be confusing.

On 14 March 2012 00:30, shane lee <shaneymail@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> I agree about LIM.  I used a similar system on KDE (oxygen-appmenu) and at
> first I liked it a lot but over time it becomes a huge annoyance.
> It feels inconvenient when you are just trying to get to a particular menu
> item quickly (which is where the HUD could prove invaluable) and it can be
> frustrating when you open a submenu and the mouse goes slightly in the
> wrong place and in trying to correct you end up losing the menu and have to
> start again.
> As far as I'm concerned, LIM is NOT the way to go unless it is optional
> and not default.
>
> As far as your idea goes for integrating into the titlebar:
> This is something I have also suggested in various places and seems the
> perfect solution.
> The menu is out of sight when not needed but just as easy to access as
> traditional (boring) window menus.
> The best bit is, it's consitent with the global menu so users who choose
> to have the menu on the menubar or integrated into individual windows would
> still be instantly familiar with the behavior (windo title replaced by menu
> on mouse-over).
>
> My only concern about your specific idea is the menu icon may be too small
> a target for many users.
> Discovery probably wouldn't be a problem since users would likely
> mouse-over the menu icon just to see what it is but more experienced users
> would want to move their mouse where the expect the menu entry to be, not
> move to the menu icon then move across to the menu entry.
>
> I think for such an idea to fully work, one would need to be able to place
> the mouse in any part of the title bar.
>
>
>
> On 14 March 2012 00:11, Faheem Padia <f_padia@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>>  Sorry to re-post but I've been advised that emailing all contacts the
>> way I had first time wasn't the best way of starting a discussion so this
>> should correct that...
>>
>> Hello to all,
>>
>> I have just joined the list because I had a design idea for the
>> implementation of the locally integrated menus that are supposed to be
>> introduced at some point. I originally put the idea on brainstorm but it
>> was marked as 'not an idea' on the basis that unity design is actively
>> discussed in other places. I guessed this was on such place where my
>> idea might be more appropriately voiced but if I am wrong please let me
>> know. Anyway on to the idea...
>>
>> Basically from the opinions of other Ubuntu users I have read (mostly on
>> OMGUbuntu) I understand that LIM is not particularly popular in its
>> current form. The 2 main criticisms I have come across commonly are that
>> 1. having a vertical menu is not convenient and requires re-learning the
>> arrangement of menu items unnecessarily and
>> 2. implementing LIM would mean an additional click is required to
>> actually see the menu which is counter-productive
>>
>> so my idea so solve both of these would be to have an animated reveal of
>> the menu horizontally in the window title bar when the mouse hovers over
>> the menu icon. This would keep the menu as close to how it is currently
>> but also introduce the LIM concept of having the menu attached to the
>> title bar of an application. This solution also doesnt introduce any new
>> problems of dragging windows (that I have come across from other ideas)
>> since the menu only reveals when the mouse passes over the menu icon and
>> not over the title bar in general.
>>
>> I'm sure a number of ideas for this have been explored and I apologise
>> if this particualr idea has also been discussed but it would be
>> interesting to hear other peoples opinions nonetheless.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
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