On second thoughts, a second list might lead to even more noise,
mainly "can I get an invite", "why wasn't I invited", "closed
discussions are against the linux philosophy" etc.
Moderators *might* be a better idea but would also probably lead to
countless "why was my topic closed" topics.
Also, I have seen too many power hungry or holier than thou
moderators who moderate based on their own opinions in various forums
and such so they would certainly have to be carefully chosen.
On 7 May 2012 10:58, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
<mikkel.kamstrup@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:mikkel.kamstrup@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
On 05/04/2012 06:10 AM, Mark Shuttleworth wrote:
Hi folks
We've done rather well to attract a lot of comments and
discussion on
the unity-design list, which is great. And there are lots of
interesting
ideas and suggestions and proposals and mockups, which is
even better.
There are, however, quite a lot of repetitive threads. For
example,
today's "yet another dodge windows" thread. Into that
category I'd put
the "why can't it be an option" thread and the "it's
ridiculous that the
buttons are on the left" thread. For all that they represent
perfectly
valid ideas, which are certainly shared by some users, they
have been
discussed to death and are boring to re-hash again and again.
They clog
an inbox that would otherwise be full of more interesting,
new ideas. We
are over them, so to speak, but new participants may not know
that.
There's lots of value in having a public, unmoderated list
for design
discussions. It's good to have a place where anybody can
generate ideas.
And this list is fine for that. I'd like to propose an
additional list,
unity-distilled, which would be public and unmoderated, but
open by
invitation only. Participation there would be predicated on a
shared
understanding of our values, goals and modus operandi. People
would be
invited if they show an interest, insight into and agreement
with the
answers to the above boring threads, and several more like
them. I'm
sure we'll have vigorous debates on -distilled, but folk
there would
have demonstrated an ability to have the debate, settle the
question and
move on to more interesting matters rather than letting the
same topics
come up repeatedly.
Thoughts?
I think the noise is more a symptom that a mailing list, or its
current execution, is not tuned for these discussions.
Some big problems with the current mailing list is:
1) Archives are not searchable (see
http://lists.launchpad.net/__unity-design
<http://lists.launchpad.net/unity-design>), making it very hard
to provide pointers to old discussions
2) There is no moderation or clear authority. No one to stop
off-topic-, repetitive-, or burning threads.
I'd suggest either a) creating a unity-design police with the
proper authority and admin rights and making sure the archives
are searchable, or b) using another tool that is more dynamic and
meritocratic in nature, ala stackexchange or similar.
Cheers,
Mikkel
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