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[Andrea Corbellini <corbellini.andrea@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hello,

Thank you for your analysis. Here is some feedback from myself, I hope 
you'll find it useful.

On 24/06/12 09:35, Jonathan Meek wrote:
> *"Open with [default program here]"/"Open With >"
> Why do we have these two items? If the user wants to launch with the
> default program they can just launch it by normal clicks. The expanded
> "open with >" option is all that is really necessary at this point in
> time in case a user wants to launch the file/program with a non-default
> action.

For me, the "Open with <name>" has been useful to know which application 
would have been opened by default. Dropping it from the menu is fine for 
me, but what I do need is the ability to recognize the default 
application under "Open With >". Making it bold should be fine.

> *Cut/Copy
> Not much to say here, need to keep an eye on where there is duplication
> of effort, however.
>
> *Make Link
> I would argue against the need for this item, but can see its
> usefulness. I say keep it for now, but keep an eye on how useful it remains.

I personally use the dash to look for my files and folders. But Unity 
and Gnome Shell are great at showing the files you are looking for. So, 
in my opinion, there's absolutely no need to create links to make 
navigation faster.

> *Rename
> Necessary, but same deal as Cut/Copy.
>
> *"Copy To >"/"Move To >"
> These two are a mild convenience that I don't think is worth the wasted
> space. Besides, I can't, as a user, define a new place to add to these
> categories. And that picture I right-clicked on? No option to send it to
> /home/ME/pictures, so these items sort of explain themselves out of the
> picture in my eyes. I quick drop to /home or /home/me/Desktop isn't
> really worth those two lines. (Also, weird bug I noticed: for some
> reason the move to sub menu was unshadowed and caused the right-click
> menu to expand. Not sure if just me or what.)

Never used such options and, as you already said, they are too limited 
to be useful.

> *Move to Trash...
> I couldn't live without it.
>
> *"Resize Icon"/"Restore Icon's Original Size" [DESKTOP ONLY]
> Why do these even exist? Nautilus' desktop is already unruly enough
> without having this absolutely useless feature. How many people actually
> resize any icons on their desktop? (Another bug: After testing what
> Resize did, I went to click the restore option which appeared
> insensitive, but allowed me to click it anyway. Will need repro.)
>
> *Revert to Previous Version...
> Will someone please tell me why this option is there for me? I do NOT
> have Deja Dup set up. Yet it's decided to hook into my menus and ask me
> if I want to revert a file that it isn't versioning? I think Deja Dup
> needs to have some thinking of when to expose such functions to users
> instead of just sticking it in because it is there.
>
> *Compress...
> Useful in my eyes. Would love others input on this one.

Very useful for me too. Also, the tool for the compression is really 
tiny and uncomplicated.

> *"Ubuntu One >"
> So singularly focused. Are we proposing with this behaviour everyone
> should just drop their own items into the menu? If I've a dropbox and U1
> account, will my menu be another usless item? OS X, from what I can tell
> handles this situation much more gracefully with its "Share..." option.
> I think it would be much better to have this and have programs hook into
> that instead of populating my menus. Share covers the gamut from social
> to cloud.

Personally, I'd prefer to manage all my sharing settings from a generic 
and centralized 'sharing tool', rather than from Nautilus. (With 
'generic' I mean service-independent.) This would give me both more 
control and more information about what's going on, as I take privacy 
seriously. However that's probably out of the scope of this thread...

It should be noticed that folders have already a 'Sharing Options' item 
inside their context menu. But it's very unintuitive: there are no 
information about where the share will be published, who will see it and 
how to use it. If I remember correctly, that option creates a Samba 
share, but I may be wrong.

> *Send To...
> I'll be honest, i've never used this and upon clicking it to test what
> it was, I still have no idea what the hell it is. It can't be too
> terribly useful? Input needed.

I was aware of the existence of this option and its effects, however I 
have really never used it. For me, it's a waste of space.

> *Properties
> Axe it! Oh, wait, nevermind.
>
> Whew, quite a bit there... What are we looking at now?
>
> Open With >
> ---------------
> Cut
> Copy
> Move to Trash
> ---------------
> Make Link...
> Rename
> ---------------
> Compress...
> ---------------
> Share...
> Properties
>
> Fewer submenus, less noise, more usefulness. Of course, with the
> "Share..." option requiring more work than less, I doubt that one will
> come to fruition, though I do find it much more graceful. I'd appreciate
> feedback on those areas my post has been lacking. And before we start in
> on the "I use this feature, so it has to stay" think first if we have it
> elsewhere, how many others will really use it (hence why Compress is an
> iffy option), how hard it is to do elsewhere, versus cluttering the menu
> further, etc.