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[Jonathan Meek <shrouded.cloud@xxxxxxxxx>]

Nautilus is just the latest thing the eyes have fallen on. It's really
indicative of the bigger picture... Take what I wrote here, for instance:
http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/03/ubuntu-design-micro-vs-macro

NONE of the next generation GNOME applications are going to fit in with
Ubuntu. We can keep the discussion on Nautilus, but Empathy feels out of
place now. So do the games. Are we going to "fix" one because it axed a few
features that they didn't feel were being/could be maintained well and
leave the rest to stick out like sore thumbs? They have their own design
language just like Mozilla or elementary. This is the time to push for
first-party default applications. At the very least to replace divergent
GNOME applications. But that requires an HIG first, which Ubuntu doesn't
have.

My cries have fallen to mute listeners (of the ones that have the
opportunity to do something about this). For all we know, they may be doing
just what I say, though I doubt it.

Canonical may want to surprise us, but not on this one. We need an open
discussion like we used to have of old on this. Continuing on like this
isn't an issue is not the way to go. We need to lay out the plan to fix it
NOW to stop all the continual "oh, look at this app" EVERY cycle.

And while we're at it, we can tackle the tangential toolkit proliferation
issue.

On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 6:46 AM, Georgi Karavasilev <motorslav@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:

> Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know, this has already been discussed like countless
> of time already and stuff, however a decision has not been reached, which
> is bit worrying.
> Lets face it - there are a lot of choices out there, but none of them are
> perfect.
> Nautilus 3.4 is the safest bet out there (feature and stability wise),
> however it has that horrid chopped down right sided toolbar and the back
> and forward on the right and neither of those two are even remotely good
> looking.
> Nautilus 3.6 is pretty, however it is terrible chopped down feature wise
> and doesn't fit Ubuntu and Unity at all (super-menu and no menubar, hence
> no appmenu => no HUD, light toolbar (and all other apps have dark ones).
> Nemo is the new kid on the block and that's pretty much all that's known
> about it.
> Marlin is the prettiest file manager there is out there, however it does
> lack stability (and maybe a features - MAYBE) and *needs **a lot*
>  manpower.
> last, but not least there is this patched version of Nautilus 3.4 -
> http://www.webupd8.org/2012/08/install-solusos-patched-nautilus-in-ubuntu-1204.html,
> that could as well do the trick. It has full-width toolbar and back and
> back and forward on left.
> *Personally *I am in favour of investing time and manpower in Marlin.
> Surely that's biting the bullet and it is bit risky, but it could pay off
> big time :)
> So, what do you say? :P
>
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