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Re: total formulation + modifying friction?

 


I'm a bit surprised, I though the plastic part was removed from total displacement (or ref point moved, which is the same).
That is exactly what happens. Of course the result will be different,
since (∫dus will be shear deformation at previous step, be it computed
in any way, us is the current shear deformation us):

Fs_tot=ks₁us=ks₁∫dus+ks₁Δus
Fs_incr     =ks₀∫dus+ks₁Δus

Heh... There is no friction in those equations, but I still see an effect!!
If I understand correctly now, u_s is total displacement (elastic+plastic, from contact creation to now), a "candidate" force is computed from it, and corrected according to the plastic rule. But if I change the plasticity criterion, the plastic part is computed differently, and the elastic part is apparently changing. Correct?

Initially, I thought the plastic part was really removed forever, meaning u_s from the previous step would have been only the elastic displacement. In that case, changing friction should not affect current forces. In the incremental form, we keep fs, so that us=fs/ks is obviously the elastic part of the total displacement (*).

(why do you need to modify friction coefficient? Isn't that supposed to
be somehow constant?)

No, its not supposed to be constant, because I want to change it! ;)

In my case, the point is to generate dense (5°) or loose (30°) packings depending on initial friction, while the end of the test is always done with the same 30°. Which means I need to change friction between phases of the simulation.

You can also imagine friction (or plastic limit) as a function of temperature, water content, weathering, etc.

Bruno





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