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On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Jaap Karssenberg <
jaap.karssenberg@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 10:07 AM,  <hansbkk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Jaap Karssenberg
> > <jaap.karssenberg@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >> The distinction between actionable and non-actionable is that
> >> actionable tasks are tasks that you can execute right now, while
> >> non-actionable tasks maybe open, but have a pre-condition before they
> >> can be acted upon.
> >>
> >
> > Thanks for the explanation
> >
> > However, all this seems to go against my KISS preferences. If I'm just
> > brainstorming I might make all kinds of lists of "stuff", but if I put a
> > checkbox in front of it that means "do ASAP". I can use the bangs for
> > urgency, dates for deadlines, that's fine, but I personally don't waste
> time
> > organizing what I call my "backlog", things I know I don't have time for
> > yet, and I certainly don't want them cluttering up my next actions lists,
> > AFAIC they aren't even actions yet, just part of my project notes.
> >
> > When I'm reviewing a project and see things I want to "activate" in your
> > terms, that's when I put in the energy to transform it from "stuff" into
> > broken down tasks, and the checkbox indicates which are ready to get
> done.
> >
> > It's your project, but allow me to please express that most task/project
> > management tools end up requiring the user to fit the tool's methodology.
> > What I like about Zim as such a tool is its flexibility so I can use it
> as I
> > want to.
>
> That will not change. Having more complex controls does not force you
> to use them. So nothing in zim will prevent you to keep your current
> way of working.
>
> I agree that the more complex features should be non-obtrusive for
> users that only use the basic set.
>
> > Regarding the UI issue, you'd have room for more "filters" if you just
> > replace that long string with a small icon to represent "Actionable"
> (maybe
> > a graphic [A!] ?), and had similar "real checkboxes" as I suggested to
> > de/select the three states of the "checkbox-back in the source text", and
> > the user could toggle each to get the combination filter they wanted.
> >
> > IMO the default when Task List is opened should remain
> >   Actionable-only off
> >   Open on
> >   OK off
> >   NOK off
>
> I agree, but I'm still of the opinion that this belongs in a drop down
> box. I deinitely want a bit of text, maybe with icons next to it. The
> dropdown allows for more options while still giving quick access to
> the function,
>
> Regards,
>
> Jaap
>
>
> P.S. you keep dropping the mailing list from your replies - please use
> "Reply to All", thanks
>

Then leave Actionable? and Open? as checkbox, if Open unchecked then drop
down could list:
  OK
  NOK
  OK+NOK

Otherwise to cover all the combinations you'd need what? 16 choices in your
dropdown. . .