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[Jules Moules <julesmoules@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hi All

Thanks for the replies. And I'm glad I'm not alone!

And Marco, you make some interesting points.  By all means let's have a
'How do YOU use zim?' forum tag (by the way, I just found the equivalent of
that on the wiki!)  But I feel it should also be reflected in the home page,

I'm going to try and be a bit more specific here and propose a few minor
changes.  Feel free to take a pot-shot or add your own RFCs...

1. For instance, where on the Home Page (http://zim-wiki.org/index.html)
you have the line:
Zim - A Desktop WikiChange to:
Zim - A Personal Desktop Notes and Wiki Application
2. Where you have:

*Zim* can be used to:

   - Keep an archive of notes
   - Take notes during meetings or lectures
   - Organize task lists
   - Draft blog entries and emails
   - Do brainstorming

Change to:

*Zim* can be used to:

   - *Replace your existing desktop Notes application (Tomboy, Gnote)!!*
   -  (and make Tomboy, Gnote links to a zim wiki HowTo)
      - Keep an archive of notes
   - Take notes during meetings or lectures
   - *Take a Note-of-the-Day*
   - Organize task lists
   - Draft blog entries and emails
   - Do brainstorming
   - *Easily synchronise across the 'Cloud' and keep all your computer
   appliances up-to-date (Ubuntu One, DropBox)*
      - (and make Ubuntu One, DropBox etc links to a zim wiki HowTo)


And I tried to register on the wiki to add some some notes.  I registered
(my username exists) but was returned a server error when it tried to email
me the confirmation and password. Shame, I do want to contribute my
positive experience of using ZIM as a Notes app.

And I'll put some stuff into the Usage Cases when I get my login, too;)

Jules

On 18 March 2013 08:11, Jules Moules <julesmoules@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hi all
>
> I guess this is directed at Jaap Karssenberg.
>
> I used Tomboy notes.  Loved it, great app, perfect for my day-to-day use.
> After a short enough time it grew to nearly 400 notes (okay, 70 of those
> were recipes, including pigeon pie - interested?).
>
> But I got a little tetchy.  I wanted to insert inline photos, attach stuff
> so I didn't lose it (okay, I could link to a web page but who could
> guarantee that the page would still be up in a year's time?)  Couldn't do
> it.
>
> A good friend also uses Tomboy, so I'd want to send him a note.  Fine.
> First I had to find the note, then attach it, and then give instructions to
> my not-so-experienced-friend on how to save it.  So, more than a few
> growing up pains, and a need for extra stuff for my notes app.  But then,
> along came the Ubuntu One Tomboy Notes Synchronisation Disaster™...  That
> had absolutely *nothing* to with Tomboy Notes, I might add (I still love
> that app!)
>
> So I had a look around, couldn't find anything I really liked.  But by a
> random and unconnected route came across ZIM.  A 'desktop' wiki.  Well, I
> thought, going off on a tangent from what I was supposed to be doing,
> Tomboy is wiki-ish, so I'll have a little look at this to see if it can do
> the basic Tomboy stuff... and discovered *namespaces*.  That was it....
>
> Well, the result is history in my little world.  It does everything that
> Tomboy can do and, frankly, does it better.  Plus it has all that extra
> stuff that I'd been wanting for Tomboy.  So I'm getting my friend to
> install it, too.
>
> Now after all that preamble here's the 'but':  why don't you advertise it
> as a *Personal Desktop Notes Application and/or Wiki*.  I very nearly
> didn't find ZIM at all!  It didn't even feel, or seem from the name, like a
> drop-in replacement for Tomboy, ZIM works straight out of the box, has
> excellent docco, and also comes with a working Tomboy notes conversion
> script.
>
> I remain, Mr Karssenberg, pleasurably confused and annoyed.  ZIM is a
> fantastic little app and should be much more widely known as a Desktop
> Notes App and/or Wiki (and I'm talking as a general user of wikis at work -
> hell, I've even set 'em up - as information resources on projects,
> technical issues and for all sorts of stuff - and even I didn't make that
> connection!!!).  Because, unlike all the other server-based wikis I'd used
> and setup, this one was for the desktop.  And I didn't make that simple
> connection that a wiki can also be a personal desktop app, and that meant a
> notes app. My fault, perhaps, but I doubt I'm alone in this...
>
> So, how about the tag-line change?  Because it's an almost *perfect*desktop notes app..... and I'd like to see it marketed as such to those
> users who, just like me, want just a little more from their everyday notes
> app.
>
> Many thanks for your hard work.
>
> Jules Moules
>
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