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[Paul Gouin <paul.gouin50@xxxxxxxxx>]

Thanks to all who responded.

Turns out my description of the issue was inaccurate: it is not tags that
Zim creates automatically but links to new pages.

Below is an example of the kind of text I routinely paste into Zim. (These
are phonemic transcriptions of recordings made for the purpose of creating
text-to-speech synthetic voices; the 1st phrase transcribes "and guarantees
of due processes" ; the @ signs designates the so-called "schwa" or
undifferentiated vowel)

If you're patient enough to try and paste this text for yourselves, maybe
you'll notice some kind of pattern that escapes me. Links are created on
most lines but not all; links may extend across whole lines or not.

Disabling the option to "Automatically turn file paths into links" does not
alter Zim's behavior in this respect.

--------
Sample text:

phn/phrase01418.phn:#_|_-@_n_
d_|_g_~a_.r_@_n_.t_*ii_z_|_*uh_v_|_d_*uu_|_p_r_*o_.s_e_s_#
phn/phrase01427.phn:#_|_-@_n_d_|_dh_*a_t_s_|_w_*ai_|_*ai_|_p_*u_sh_t_|_h_*i_m_|_*oo_f_|_dh_-@
_|_r_*uu_f_#
phn/phrase01479.phn:#_|_-@_n_d_|_*o_n_|_*uh_.dh_@@_|_f_*i_z_.k_@
_l_|_p_*a_.r_@_.d_ai_s_.@_z_#
phn/phrase01543.phn:#_|_-@_n_d_|_d_*i_s_.k_au_n_t_|_s_t_*oo_r_z_|_*oo_.f_n=_|_s_*e_l_|_dh_*e_m_|_f_-@
_r_|_m_*uh_ch_|_l_*e_s_#
phn/phrase01554.phn:#_|_-@_n_d_|_dh_-@_|_s_t_*ah_n_d_.oo_f_|_b_i_.g_*a_n_#
phn/phrase01594.phn:#_|_-@_n_d_|_*e_.n_ii_|_w_*uh_n_|_*uh_v_|_dh_*e_m_|_k_*u_d^_|_h_*ou_l_d_|_n_aa_.k_*o_.d^_i_k_s_#
phn/phrase01648.phn:#_|_-@_n_d^_|_*i_f_|_w_*ii_|_k_*u_d_|_g_*e_t_|_*au_r_|_sh_*i_p_|_*au_t_#
phn/phrase01748.phn:#_|_-@_n_d_|_s_t_*ei_|_dh_*e_r_|_uh_n_.t_*i_l_|_*ai_|_k_*uh_m_#
phn/phrase01777.phn:#_|_-@_n_d_|_dh_*ii_|_~oo_r_.g_@_.n_@
_z_.*ei_.sh_n=_z_|_s_*e_.k_r_@_t_.~e_.r_ii_|_jh_*e_n_.r_@_l_#
phn/phrase01782.phn:#_|_-@_n_d^_|_-@_n_|_*i_ng_.k_r_ii_s_|_*i_n_|_i_.l_~e_k_.t_r_*i_.s_i_.d^_ii_|_t_*a_.r_@
_f_s_#
phn/phrase01801.phn:#_|_-@_n_d_|_dh_*e_r_|_r_~ii_.d^_i_.p_l_*oi_.m_@
_n_t_|_t_-@_|_b_*ei_s_.@_z_|_s_*au_th_|_*uh_v_|_s_*ou_l_#


> On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 10:45 AM,  <hansbkk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Yes Twitter will come and go (good riddance) but I hope Zim will be
> around
> > for generations.
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 9:01 AM, Marco Cevoli <marco.cevoli@xxxxxxxxx>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> I see. It makes lot of sense.
> >>
> >> Marco Cevoli
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 2:23 PM, Jaap Karssenberg
> >> <jaap.karssenberg@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> > Main logic is that "#" is also used for anchors in HTML links. So
> >> > reserved
> >> > "#" for links and decided on "@" since this is used for tags in
> >> > applications
> >> > predating twitter.
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> >
> >> > Jaap
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 1:28 PM, Marco Cevoli <marco.cevoli@xxxxxxxxx
> >
> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> I know this has been discussed before, but why don't we follow
> >> >> twitter's standard? All words with @ are for people/users and # for
> >> >> actual tags. I don't know if this unnecessary complicates things, but
> >> >> it might be useful to many users. The developer(s) can only change
> the
> >> >> actual @ with # , and this "user/contact management" (using @) can be
> >> >> created as an external plugin, ie, not forcing everyone to use it,
> >> >> since Zim is designed as a personal organizer.
> >> >>
> >> >> Just brainstorming.
> >> >>
> >> >> Marco Cevoli
> >> >> Technical translator. Graphic designer. Joiner-of-dots.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 11:32 AM, Jaap Karssenberg
> >> >> <jaap.karssenberg@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> >> > On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Güven, Ugur Murat
> >> >> > <murat.gueven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Hi,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >Colin:[… ]Ugur Murat wants it and has done coding in related
> areas
> >> >> >> > so
> >> >> >> > I've been hoping they might do it someday. […]
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I was thinking of having the @ sign for general tags, and the #
> sign
> >> >> >> for
> >> >> >> people tags, as I’m using tags heavily, also
> >> >> >> for tasks to assign to people.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> What I could imagine is to have the tags symbol to be a setting in
> >> >> >> preferences, but changing the tag symbol is not that
> >> >> >> easy, as far as I can see.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > This is a bad idea design wise. The wiki syntax parsing should not
> >> >> > depend on
> >> >> > preferences. Data format should be stable.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >Paul:Each time I paste into Zim a string containing @, it handles
> >> >> >> > that
> >> >> >> > string as a tag.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Currently I can see only a workaround, replacing the @ sign by
> >> >> >> anything
> >> >> >> else, when you copy paste your text.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Replacing is indeed a work around. Real solution would be to handle
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > copy-paste such that you get the wanted result. E.g. use the "@",
> but
> >> >> > escape
> >> >> > it such that it is not formatted as tag, or a "paste-as-verbatim"
> >> >> > function.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > But first need to understand the way Paul is using these strings to
> >> >> > judge
> >> >> > best direction.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Regards,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Jaap
> >> >> >
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