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["S. Mubashir" <sajid.mubashir@xxxxxxxxx>]

Dear Zim-Gurus,

May I suggest a simple alternative, that doesn't involve embedding some 
special logic or identifier or ID etc?

 * Let the current alphabetical sorting remain.
 * For anyone who wants to re-order, as per their preference, a
   key-binding can be given.  For example, in MS-Word, the key-sequence
   [Shift+Alt+Up] or [Shift+Alt+Down} can rearrange paragraphs. The
   OpenOffice/ LibreOffice Key-Binding is different and probably
   [Ctrl+Alt+Up/ Down]; I am not sure of the latter because I always
   change it to [Ctrl+Up or Ctrl+Down] on all PC/ laptop I use.

I depend on this key-binding for its simplicity, power & convenience.  
Mr. Ugur Murat's method is a little laborious, needs foresight and such 
disciplined notebook looks super-human to me.

My special (earnest) request is that the key-binding (for 
page-promotion/ demotion) should also be applicable to paragraphs 
(promotion/ demotion) within the page, and if you do that, Zim will 
become an exceptional text-editor.  For regular use one won't need the 
Word Processor, until printing the page becomes important.

Best regards,
S.Mubashir

On Wednesday 18 February 2015 03:53 PM, Güven, Ugur Murat wrote:
> Hi Jaap,
>
> >1/ Do you only want custom ordering, or switch between custom and 
> alphabetical sorting ?
>
> What I’d love to see is the possibility to enable / disable a personal 
> index
>
> My current structure is:
>
> 004Projects
>
> 004-0010-ProjectA
>
> 001-Information-ProjectA
>
> 002-Tasks-ProjectA
>
> 003-Meetings-ProjectA
>
>                 M001-DATE-ProjectA
>
>                 M002-DATE-ProjectA
>
>                 M003-DATE-ProjectA
>
> 003-OngoingTopics-ProjectA
>
> 004-0020-ProjectB
>
> 004-0030-ProjectC
>
> … using the pre-fix numbers for sorting.
>
> So putting this together means that I would need the possibility to sort
>
> ·according to creation date
>
> ·setting the position manually
>
> >2/ If so, where do you click to switch between custom ordering and 
> alphabetic ordering ? And how this switch affect sub-sections ?
>
> Basically I need to have the option per parent note to make child 
> notes sorted against. So, right-clicking on the parent note should 
> show a popup menu
>
> In above example I would sort manually:
>
> 004-0010-ProjectA
>
> 001-Information-ProjectA
>
> 002-Tasks-ProjectA
>
> 003-Meetings-ProjectA
>
> 003-OngoingTopics-ProjectA
>
> These should be sorted against creation date:
>
> 003-Meetings-ProjectA
>
>                 M001-DATE-ProjectA
>
>                 M002-DATE-ProjectA
>
>                 M003-DATE-ProjectA
>
> >3/ When index has custom ordering, where do new pages show up - at the 
> end, in the front, other position ?
>
> According to the selected option in parent note. There could be an 
> exception though -->
>
> >5/ ... what did I not think of yet ... ?
>
> If camel case creation is switched on, the notes which are created 
> automatically need to be placed as child notes and should be sorted 
> alphabetically as standard.
>
> >4/ Should custom sorting depend on list of links in parent page ? 
> (Either by default or as a plugin)
>
> That is a nice idea. On the one hand it could make it easier for the 
> user to find the notes in the index if the index order follows the 
> order in the note, but on the other hand, if the
>
> links are not in a list within a note, I don’t see a direct visual 
> connection to the index order and to the order within the note.
>
> -->
>
> >5/ ... what did I not think of yet ... ?
>
> I often use parent notes as ‘folders’ with little or no content. Such 
> ‘special’ notes could have the option to have the sub-notes listed as 
> links (basically your idea at 4/ with an addition)
>
> Thank you and Regards,
>
> Murat
>
>
>
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