Re: [Ayatana] Application Menus in Unity

[Adrian Maier <syraxes@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hello guys,

The essential problem of the global menu is that its behavior is
fixed, unchangeable, locked and non-configurable.   This is the first
needed step  ,  before discussing anything about changing the default
settings.

Right now the users have only two options :  like it or dislike it.
There is no possibility to disable the autohide feature. And it's not
possible to disable the global menu  (uninstalling the package, or
editing the bashrc, are  not acceptable ways to disable).

Having such config options would greatly decrease the amount of
discussions on this topic :   it's easier to be happy with some
default settings if it's possible to tweak them ...

Just for comparision : i haven't noticed any discussions on ayatana
about changing the default applications in the launcher.  Why ?
Simply because it's possible to remove the unused icons
(ex.LibreOffice )  and add others.  So there are no people irritated
by the default selection ;  hence no vivid discussions ...


I am not sure why Unity was delivered in 11.04 without a minimal set
of config options regarding the "global menu".   So I can only guess :
 it is intentional_by_design.  This is worrying if true ...


-- 
Adrian M



On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 19:15, Niklas Rosenqvist
<niklas.s.rosenqvist@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Tony, thanks for your contribution! This was a very good example on why
> it should always be visible! You can find many more arguments for why we
> should always have the menu visible in the "Global menu in Oneiric Ocelot
> (11.10)" thread.
> 2011/5/31 Tony Pursell <ajp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>
>> Hi All
>>
>> Something happened to me just recently that makes me think it is not a
>> good thing to remove application menus from view.
>>
>> Currently, I only see application menus when I hover over the panel (or
>> hit F10).
>>
>> Recently, I was trying to enable the printer attached to my desktop PC
>> and in the Printing dialogue's Properties, for my printer, under
>> Policies, it told me 'Not published - see server settings'.  I had no
>> idea what 'server' it referred to and I had to resort to the user's
>> mailing list for help.
>>
>> There is, of course, a Server menu in the application menu, but with the
>> application menu out of view, I had no idea it was there.
>>
>> So the point I'm making is, that without then application menu visible,
>> essential functionality may be hidden from the user. Any arrangement
>> that requires the user to take action to reveal the application menu can
>> mean that a user, particularly the less experienced user, may lose out
>> on full enjoyment of the programs functions.
>>
>> Tony
>>
>>
>>
>>
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