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Re: [Ayatana] make adding ppas easier



On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 4:07 PM, Scott Kitterman <ubuntu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> zekopeko <zekopeko@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>>On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 1:01 PM, Matthew Paul Thomas <mpt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>wrote:
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>>> Kévin PEIGNOT wrote on 04/09/11 13:04:
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>>>> I don't agree. PPA should be used only to install unstable /
>>>> unsupported features. I think the problem is that a lot of very good
>>>> programs aren't in the default repository and need to be installed
>>via
>>>> PPA.
>>>>
>>>> PPA installation shouldn't be too easy for newbies, because it can
>>be
>>>> risky for their system, even if they don't realize that.
>>>>...
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>>> The Ubuntu Developer site is now just about ready to solve the
>>problem
>>> of good programs not being in the default repository.
>>> <https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/>
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>>> So now is a good time to think about how we can make Ubuntu safer by
>>> making adding PPAs harder.
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>>> mpt
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>>This is offtopic but the post-release process only solves part of the
>>problem I tried to explain. If I'm reading PostReleaseApps[1] page
>>correctly it would still mean that, as per example on the wiki,
>>PyJunior would be locked only to version 1.0 while there might be 1.2
>>out.
>>
>>To completely kill PPAs as means to upgrading applications there needs
>>to be an upgrade mechanism for already existing apps beyond simple
>>bugfixes. It would also increase overall stability/security since a
>>developer is more likely to support a newer version (especially
>>considering how fast the FOSS ecosystem moves).
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> This is what backports is for.
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> Scott K
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Except it won't get updated applications if a new(er) library is used,
IIRC isn't enabled by default, isn't very popular.