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Re: image changes in ubuntu quantal (12.10)

 

Hello,

QML Unity is back :
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UnityNextSpec

As Unity Next switch from QML1 to QML2, it now needs GLES2, so this
should be running on the AC100 tegra 2 GPU with the nvidia proprietary
driver.

Regards

Florent

On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 9:28 PM, Roberto A. Foglietta
<roberto.foglietta@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Swapiness should definitely reduced.
>
> http://askubuntu.com/questions/103915/how-do-i-configure-swappiness
>
> Please take in consideration that 30/512 = 6% compared with 360/512 = 70%
> and  390/512 = 76%. Under this point of view if the RAM is an issue (and it
> is) then the effort in order to reduce the RAM usage would be better
> addressed not using the lightest but less user-friendly desktop manager than
> trying to remove services and/or components that probably are not useful for
> Toshiba. Toshiba it would be able to recognize and manage all the
> peripherals and does not supposed to have all services a common desktop has
> on board.
>
> http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-linux-memory/index.html
>
> Any common browser is practically useless on AC100:
>
> http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/macbook-air-chrome-16-firefox-9-benchmark,3108-13.html
>
> http://www.techsupportalert.com/best-free-web-browser-lightweight.htm
>
> Midori is the smallest one for MEM footprint based on GTK2+
>
> But in the end those want really have a geek usable system should take in
> consideration to porting this on AC100
>
> http://distro.ibiblio.org/tinycorelinux/
>
>
>
>
> 2012/9/3 Luis Flores <luiscamposflores@xxxxxxxxx>
>>
>> Here is a memory comparison from phoronix:
>>
>> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_desktop_vitals&num=1
>>
>> On Ubuntu 10.04 LXDE uses 30MB less than XFCE.
>>
>> I don't know the current difference, but 30MB is not a trivial amount
>> on the AC100.
>>
>> Is it feasible to include both? XFCE and LXDE on the install image?
>> They are both small ...
>>
>> The worst thing using this laptop is RAM, once you start swapping the
>> system stalls for minutes at a time, it's horrible. A normal user will
>> assume the laptop is crashed, and that's a very bad thing.
>>
>> Do you feel the laptop is usable with XFCE? With 3 or 4 aplications
>> open (Octave,AbiWord,Dia,RDP,Gnumeric...)? With 3 ou 4 browser tabs
>> open?
>>
>> Try opening a few docs on Google Docs, or a few threads on Slashdot,
>> it will stall ...
>>
>> XFCE is more user friendly than LXDE, but is it more usable on the AC100?
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 6:36 PM, Florent Gallaire <fgallaire@xxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>> > Ubuntu made its reputation in delivering a great user experience, with
>> > a full featured and integrated Desktop by default.
>> > I can install WindowMaker, some tiling WM or Openbox (i.e. LXDE) by
>> > myself for my personnal needs, but for my sister's AC100, I need Xfce
>> > ready from the start.
>> > Xfce is the only one lightweight full featured and integrated Desktop
>> > available, it's the only choice possible.
>> > Please switch to it.
>> >
>> > Regards
>> >
>> > Florent
>> >
>> > On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 7:05 PM, Luis Flores <luiscamposflores@xxxxxxxxx>
>> > wrote:
>> >> Ubuntu should be easy to install. The UI must be pleasant to use, and
>> >> perform reasonably well.
>> >>
>> >> The AC100 is too memory constrained, anything that use less RAM will
>> >> be seen as a usability improvement from the user point of view.
>> >>
>> >> We can have a nicer desktop or 4 open tabs on Firefox or Chromium, I'd
>> >> rather have more tabs ... Or be able to open another program.
>> >>
>> >> AC100 status:
>> >>
>> >> http://uk.computers.toshiba-europe.com/innovation/jsp/SUPPORTSECTION/discontinuedProductPage.do?service=UK&tab=3&com.broadvision.session.new=Yes&PRODUCT_ID=1091301
>> >>
>> >> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Toshiba-AC100-10U-Netbook-nVidia-Android/dp/B003VYB2KO
>> >>
>> >> Not produced, inventory still on sale.
>> >>
>> >> But I understand and agree with having the biggest audience possible.
>> >> But, from my experience, the only way I can regularly use the AC100 is
>> >> to free as much RAM as I can, so that I can run useful software.
>> >>
>> >> Also, pointing to the minimum seems like a technical only choice, it
>> >> is easy to order and choose the lightest, pointing at an medium class
>> >> desktop environment will lead us to much more debate, and opinions ...
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 5:45 PM, Roberto A. Foglietta
>> >> <roberto.foglietta@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >>> Anyone enough skilled could be able to switch the desktop environment
>> >>> after
>> >>> installation. For some users just installing it would be a great pain
>> >>> so I
>> >>> think it will be better starting with a most user-friendly
>> >>> environment,
>> >>> instead adding pain to pain.
>> >>>
>> >>> Consider that AC100 is piratically useless with original OS which is
>> >>> designed for tablets and not for netbooks with keyboard instead
>> >>> touchscreen.
>> >>> So many users need to replace their OS even if they would not be
>> >>> comfortable
>> >>> with this operation (most users do not change their OS even on PC for
>> >>> which
>> >>> is much more simpler).
>> >>>
>> >>> Obviously depend on the aim of the project if it is interesting to
>> >>> have a
>> >>> small/skilled user-base or a much broad user-base. The second of two
>> >>> hypotheses seems to me more reasonable otherwise it did not started
>> >>> with
>> >>> Ubuntu but something more harder to manage but much more lighter also
>> >>> in
>> >>> term of operative system.
>> >>>
>> >>> Moreover keeping the way of user-friendly approach increase (the small
>> >>> probability) that in the future Toshiba decide to deploy this OS
>> >>> instead
>> >>> android - AFAIK Toshiba did not discontinued the production of AC100
>> >>> or did
>> >>> they?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> 2012/9/3 Luis Flores <luiscamposflores@xxxxxxxxx>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Well, anyone installing Ubuntu on an AC100 should be able to switch
>> >>>> desktop environment later, so, it's nice to start with the
>> >>>> minimal/fastest desktop ...
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Dr. Azrael Tod
>> >>>> <launchpad.net@xxxxxxxx>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>> > On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 12:48 PM, hiro <23hiro@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >>>> >> why not simply ship without a desktop?
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > that wouldn't really appeal to newbies, wouldn't it?
>> >>>> >
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