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[Pedro Manuel Baeza Romero <pedro.baeza@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hi, Ignacio, very good news!, so I let you work in that compatibility
before making anything. When do you think is going to be ready? Can I help
you in something? I have some additional questions from Carlos Liébana that
I want to check, so if you think there's still too much work to do, can you
share your work in progress to check it there?

About the dependency, I think we can make a glue module that add both
dependencies in each repository, or defer the checking of some things to
the moment of export. The other proposal you make depends only on
account_payment, this can't be done in the same way?

About the news from SEPA, I think this is still a proposal, isn't it?

Regards.


2014/1/10 Ignacio Ibeas <ignacio@xxxxxxxxxx>

>  Hello,
>
>
>
> Pedro, now I have installed the work of Alexis with
> account_payment_extension, without banking_addons_payment_export, and I'm
> working in the compatibility. Despite of make account_payment_extension
> compatible with the Alexis Modules, we have the problem in the
> __openerp__.py, I have remove the dependence banking_addons_payment_export,
> but I don't found the method to make a variable dependence.
>
>
>
> Another new about SEPA from European Commission:
>
> "Single Euro Payments Area (SEPA): Commission introduces an additional
> transition period of six months to ensure minimal disruption for consumers
> and businesses"
>
> http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-14-6_en.htm?locale=en
>
>
>
> Greetings
>
>
>
> On Viernes, 10 de enero de 2014 00:15:30 usted escribió:
>
> > Hi, Alexis
>
> >
>
> > Sorry for the late reply, but the end of year tasks are really a hell.
>
> > Tomorrow I'm going to check deeper both ways and see compatibility
> options,
>
> > so if you want, we can talk live throughout the day, or use mail
>
> > asynchronously.
>
> >
>
> > Regards.
>
> >
>
> > P.S.: I hope we can get to understanding to avoid duplicate efforts!!
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > 2014/1/5 Ignacio Ibeas <ignacio@xxxxxxxxxx>
>
> >
>
> > > Hello,
>
> > >
>
> > > @Alexis.
>
> > >
>
> > >
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> > >
>
> > > First of all sorry for my english.
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > The option that propose Pedro comes because there are companies that
> use
>
> > > account_payment_extension, and they can't change to banking addons.
>
> > >
>
> > > So we have developed a new project based in banking addons but without
> its
>
> > > dependence. This project try to get some tools specific tools for SEPA.
>
> > > This tools not depends of account_payment_extension,
>
> > > account_banking_payment or any other, only have the tools to export and
>
> > > can
>
> > > be used for any module.
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > Also we make the module to be easy to make inheritance.
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > I understand your point of view about join account_payment_extension
> and
>
> > > banking addons. But the limit date is near, and the companies that user
>
> > > account_payment_extension need a solution now.
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > If you check the module of this project you can see that banking-addons
>
> > > can use it, only replace the wizard. And with this project we reduce
> the
>
> > > maintenance of sepa file format to only one module.
>
> > >
>
> > > You can see here: https://launchpad.net/sepa-tools
>
> > >
>
> > > Now in OpenERP 6.0 and 6.1. 7.0, available in few days.
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > And the account_payment_sepa merge for account_payment_extension here:
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
> https://code.launchpad.net/~openerp-sepa-team/account-payment/account-paym
>
> > > ent-sepa-6.1/+merge/200480
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
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> > >
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> > >
>
> > > PS: I have seen your direct debit module and I will compare your direct
>
> > > debit wizard with the generic sepa_pain module of sepa-tools project.
>
> > >
>
> > > Also in few days we publish other module that update IBAN accounts from
>
> > > BBAN.
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > Greetings,
>
> > >
>
> > > Ignacio Ibeas
>
> > >
>
> > > On Viernes, 3 de enero de 2014 22:19:24 Alexis de Lattre escribió:
>
> > > > Happy new year to all the banking addons team !
>
> > > >
>
> > > >
>
> > > >
>
> > > > @Pedro :
>
> > > >
>
> > > >
>
> > > >
>
> > > > Sorry for this late answer (I was on holidays until recently). Please
>
> > > >
>
> > > > find my comments below.
>
> > > >
>
> > > > Le 24/12/2013 16:47, Pedro Manuel Baeza Romero a écrit :
>
> > > > > Here in Spain we have a problem that I want to discuss with all of
> you
>
> > > > >
>
> > > > > for a long time, but as everyone, I have been very busy with end of
>
> > > > >
>
> > > > > year tasks and the usual stuff, so I take now to talk about it: as
>
> > > > >
>
> > > > > other countries, we are using /account_payment_extension/ as our
> main
>
> > > > >
>
> > > > > module for grouping payments and export them to bank files (up to
>
> > > > >
>
> > > > > SEPA, in SPAIN were CSB files). But now that SEPA arrives, we are
>
> > > > >
>
> > > > > facing that if we want to reuse community work, we have to switch
> to
>
> > > > >
>
> > > > > /account_banking_payment/ module, that is incompatible with
>
> > > > >
>
> > > > > /account_payment_extension/. So we need to choose one of this bad
>
> > > > >
>
> > > > > possibilities: a) uninstall /account_payment_extension/ and loose
> all
>
> > > > >
>
> > > > > the payment history; b) don't install account_banking_payment and
> stay
>
> > > > >
>
> > > > > as is; c) re-develop SEPA modules using
> /account_payment_extension/ as
>
> > > > >
>
> > > > > base.
>
> > > > >
>
> > > > >
>
> > > > >
>
> > > > > There are people in Spain that want the choice C and have started
> to
>
> > > > >
>
> > > > > work on it, but I would like to get to a common ground to avoid
>
> > > > >
>
> > > > > duplicating community efforts, so I want to propose something: why
>
> > > > >
>
> > > > > don't we work together on common modules that can be used for both.
>
> > > > >
>
> > > > > For example, call it /sepa_pain/, /sepa_direct_debit/ and
>
> > > > >
>
> > > > > /sepa_credit_transfer/ with the general stuff, and then make little
>
> > > > >
>
> > > > > bridge modules for each of the choices calling methods on the other
>
> > > > >
>
> > > > > modules (/account_banking_sepa/ and /account_payment_sepa/, for
>
> > > > >
>
> > > > > instance). What do you think about this solution? Do you think it's
>
> > > > >
>
> > > > > possible? If you want, we can work together in a code sprint to
>
> > > > >
>
> > > > > achieve this.
>
> > > >
>
> > > > I think there are better options that the options a, b or c that you
>
> > > >
>
> > > > propose :
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> > > >
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> > > >
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> > > >
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> > > > d) make account_payment_extension compatible with the banking addons
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> > > >
>
> > > >
>
> > > >
>
> > > > e) merge account_payment_extension and the banking addons i.e.
> implement
>
> > > >
>
> > > > in the banking addons the features of account_payment_extension that
> are
>
> > > >
>
> > > > currently not present in the banking addons
>
> > > >
>
> > > >
>
> > > >
>
> > > > I don't have experience personnally with account_payment_extension,
> but
>
> > > >
>
> > > > I am often confronted to people who install the SEPA modules from the
>
> > > >
>
> > > > banking-addons and have to uninstall account_payment_extension to
> make
>
> > > >
>
> > > > it work.
>
> > > >
>
> > > >
>
> > > >
>
> > > > After a very rapid look at account_payment_extension, I think that
>
> > > >
>
> > > > option e) is probably the best. I think that it shouldn't be a lot of
>
> > > >
>
> > > > work to add the main features of account_payment_extension in the
>
> > > >
>
> > > > banking-addons. For that, the first thing to do is to list the main
>
> > > >
>
> > > > features of account_payment_extension that are not present in the
>
> > > >
>
> > > > banking-addons. Pedro, I see in the log history that you are
> currently
>
> > > >
>
> > > > the main contributor on account_payment_extension. Maybe we could
>
> > > >
>
> > > > organise a phone meeting to talk about this ?
>
> > > >
>
> > > >
>
> > > >
>
> > > > Regards,
>
> > > >
>
> > > > > Regards and Merry Christmas!
>
> > > > >
>
> > > > >
>
> > > > >
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> > > > >
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> > > > >
>
> > > > > 2013/12/24 Alexis de Lattre <alexis.delattre@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> > > > >
>
> > > > > <mailto:alexis.delattre@xxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>
> > > > >
>
> > > > >
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> > > > >
>
> > > > > Dear banking-addons friends,
>
> > > > >
>
> > > > >
>
> > > > >
>
> > > > > Le 12/12/2013 14:51, Alexis de Lattre a écrit :
>
> > > > >
>
> > > > > Le 12/12/2013 11:13, Alexis de Lattre a écrit :
>
> > > > >
>
> > > > > B) once the merge proposal is merged, continue the work on
>
> > > > >
>
> > > > > the module "account_banking_pain_base" to mutualize more
>
> > > > >
>
> > > > > code between the credit transfer and direct debit, and add
>
> > > > >
>
> > > > > the new features added in the module for credit transfer
>
> > > > >
>
> > > > > during the Akretion-Noviat code sprint in the module for
>
> > > > >
>
> > > > > direct debit.
>
> > > > >
>
> > > > >
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> > > > >
>
> > > > > In fact, I started to work on point B. It is in this branch :
>
> > > > >
>
> > > > >
>
> > > > >
>
> > > > > https://code.launchpad.net/~akretion-team/banking-addons/70-sepa-t
>
> > > > >
>
> > > > > rf-dd-updates
>
> > > > >
>
> > > > > <https://code.launchpad.net/%7Eakretion-team/banking-addons/70-se
>
> > > > >
>
> > > > > pa-trf-dd-updates>
>
> > > > >
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> > > > >
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> > > > >
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> > > > >
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> > > > >
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> > > > > I plan to continue the work in the coming days.
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> > > > >
>
> > > > >
>
> > > > >
>
> > > > > My work on the module "account_banking_pain_base" is now mature
>
> > > > >
>
> > > > > and I now mutualize as much code as possible between the module
>
> > > > >
>
> > > > > account_banking_sepa_credit_transfer and
>
> > > > >
>
> > > > > account_banking_sepa_direct_debit. As my merge proposal
>
> > > > >
>
> > > > >
> https://code.launchpad.net/~akretion-team/banking-addons/70-sepa-direc
>
> > > > >
>
> > > > > t-debit/+merge/195139
>
> > > > >
>
> > > > > <
> https://code.launchpad.net/%7Eakretion-team/banking-addons/70-sepa-d
>
> > > > >
>
> > > > > irect-debit/+merge/195139> was still not merged, I have cancelled
> it
>
> > > > >
>
> > > > > and I made a new merge
>
> > > > >
>
> > > > > proposal :
>
> > > > >
>
> > > > >
>
> > > > >
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> > > > >
> https://code.launchpad.net/~akretion-team/banking-addons/70-sepa-trf-d
>
> > > > >
>
> > > > > d-updates/+merge/200019
>
> > > > >
>
> > > > > <
> https://code.launchpad.net/%7Eakretion-team/banking-addons/70-sepa-t
>
> > > > >
>
> > > > > rf-dd-updates/+merge/200019>
>
> > > > >
>
> > > > >
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> > > > >
>
> > > > > This is a big merge proposal because it contains A LOT of work on
>
> > > > >
>
> > > > > SEPA credit transfer and SEPA direct debit. So let's review this
>
> > > > >
>
> > > > > and get it merged before the SEPA migration deadline (February 1st
>
> > > > >
>
> > > > > 2014) !
>
> > > > >
>
> > > > >
>
> > > > >
>
> > > > > Regards,
>
> > >
>
> > > Ignacio Ibeas
>
> > >
>
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