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[Pau Garcia i Quiles <pgquiles@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi,

(I'm not sure I'll be able to connect to the conference call)

In case you don't get CoApp accepted as a mentoring organization, we may
try to get some CoApp-related work done as KDE. That would reduce the scope
of the tasks to improving CoApp so that it is usable for KDE on Windows,
but it's better than nothing.


On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 11:02 PM, Garrett Serack <garretts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:

>  I'm very interested in getting a GSOC going this year for CoApp.
>
>  We should talk about this on the conference call this week.
>
>  G
>
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> *From:* coapp-developers-bounces+garretts=
> microsoft.com@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [coapp-developers-bounces+garretts=
> microsoft.com@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] on behalf of Andreas Schiffler [
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> *Sent:* Saturday, February 04, 2012 1:46 PM
> *To:* Eric Schultz
> *Cc:* Stephen Walli; Paula Hunter; coapp-developers
> *Subject:* Re: [Coapp-developers] CoApp (or Outercurve) and Google Summer
> of Code
>
>
> I can't speak to the administrative hassles - but I've done GSoC mentoring
> for the last two years for the Simple DirectMedia Layer (SDL) project. It
> is rewarding and fun from a mentoring perspective and the only "paperwork"
> I had to do as mentor was to (1) create proposal, (2) report on student
> progress twice, and (3) submit receipts for the mentor summit travel to the
> project admin. During the project, I spend about 2-4h a week per student on
> communications, technical support and program management. Time commitment
> is a bit more during "retro-weeks" or at the beginning and end of the
> project.
>
> GSoC definitely has the benefits you list below for a project. While one
> of the ideas for GSoC is to bring in fresh folks into FOSS projects and
> make them long-term contributors, this may or may not work. My students
> didn't "stick" with SDL, but in each case some good work got done that
> lives on in the source code. Another secondary effect is the fact, that up
> to 2 mentors get to go to the GSoC mentor summit. There one can mix&mingle
> with others, promote ones project, learn what is going on in OSS, etc. -
> such interactions can definitely lead to new synergies and expanded
> efforts. The key in my view is to have some well-rounded and clear project
> proposals, one or more backup mentor(s) for technical questions, and
> sufficient scale (i.e. several projects/students/mentors) so an individual
> failure - which may happen - doesn't affect the spirit and overall outcome
> of GSoC participation.
>
> For what's its worth: I'd be interested to do GSoC mentoring again.
>
> --Andreas
>
> On 2/4/12 1:00 PM, Eric Schultz wrote:
>
> I know last year there was an interest for CoApp to apply to Google Summer
> of Code but it didn't coalesce into an application. Google just announced
> that Summer of Code is returning again this year and I would love for us to
> become a mentoring organization. CoApp would receive recognition from the
> OSS community as a whole, free student help for the summer and possible
> long term committers (and we'd get on Google's OSS radar which is always
> good). That said, it would lead to a significant amount of work on the part
> of Garrett likely and whoever the actual student mentors are. (I'd be happy
> to volunteer as a student mentor.)
>
>  Another possibility would be for Outercurve to become a mentoring
> organization like the Apache Software Foundation and the Python Software
> Foundation. This might lead to fewer students going to CoApp but eliminates
> much of Garrett's administrative work, something we all know he'd like to
> avoid. :) Outercurve might have a stronger application than CoApp by
> itself; I really don't know.
>
>  All of this said, it leads me to a few questions that we should probably
> discuss:
>
>  1. Should CoApp apply as a mentoring organization for GSoC? Are the
> administrative hassles worth it?
>
>  2. Should Outercurve apply as a mentoring organization instead? Does the
> Outercurve staff has sufficient time to manage the administrative tasks?
>
>  3. What projects does CoApp have that would work well for a summer
> project for a college student?
>
>  Any thoughts on any of this?
>
>  Eric
>
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Pau Garcia i Quiles
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(Due to my workload, I may need 10 days to answer)