Yes Jim this would suit my use case, but not sure if its global enough
others can comment may be
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 10:23 PM, Jim Grace <jimgrace@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:jimgrace@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Maybe the most useful next step is to leave the user interface the
same, but filter for the organisation unit assigned to the user
when sending the messages. So for example a national user would
see alerts from anywhere in the country, but a district user would
see alerts only from within their district. (We probably should
have done it that way in the first place!) Would this help?
Cheers,
Jim
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Prosper BT <ptb3000@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:ptb3000@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Thanks Jim for the quick response.
As we talk about the two the more I see them complicated.
For the user role, my use case is on the Uganda national
system where user roles and creating users is guarded like a
gold mine. Only two people allowed to create roles and users
though the rest of us can create user groups. But for now I
will ask them to create a user role with only one role that
can do much with the system and try it out.
For the second one, my use case is in four districts where
community health workers are sending weekly maternal
surveillance reports. These are like over 4000 villages in
level 5 on the hierarchy. I want districts at level 3 to
receive alerts whenever a death is reported
So if I implement it the way it is now, I have to create 4
district accounts and assign all them the alert user role.
Once a death happen in one district all the districts will
receive the alert.
May be as you suggest we should add hierarchy selection
(level) in creating the rule and if we specify sending to a
given level (district, region, national,...) an alert is only
sent to only users assigned to that level and only for that
hierarchy of that orgunit.
Example
Uganda/Northern Region/Gulu District/Alur Soubcounty/Gulu
Hospital/Village A
Uganda/Western Region/Kibaale District/Mutoke
Soubcounty/Kagadi Hospital/Village W
If death is reported from Village W and the rule was set to
send to only users at level 3 only users assigned to Kibaale
District with the alert role should receive the alert, but if
level 1 is chosen then all users assigned to Uganda would
receive the alert.
Regards
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 9:39 PM, Jim Grace <jimgrace@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:jimgrace@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
You also raise a good point about sending alerts from
different parts of the org unit hierarchy to different
groups of users. I'm trying to imagine how this could be
configured. Perhaps when you configure a validation rule
group you could choose a point in the org unit hierarchy
and assign a user group to be alerted for organisations at
or below that point -- and then you could make similar
assignments for other points in the org unit hierarchy as
well. This sounds very useful to me, if a bit awkward. Can
you imagine a simpler mechanism?
If you can say a bit more about the use case, that also
strengthens the case for a new feature. In particular, can
you tell me what kinds of position(s) the users have who
want to know aboutmaternal or neonatal deaths in their
district?
Thanks,
Jim
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Jim Grace
<jimgrace@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:jimgrace@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Prosper, thanks for the feedback. The role is only
used to identify a group of users, so it doesn't
matter what authorities the role has. You could create
any number of otherwise dummy roles for this purpose.
But your point is very well taken that user groups are
in general easier to set up and administer (without
needing the authority to create roles.) That's a very
good suggestion for the future.
Thanks,
Jim
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 12:53 PM, Prosper BT
<ptb3000@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:ptb3000@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Dear Team and Jim
Thanks for this validation rule type that helps us
send alerts above set thresholds. Am planning to
implement it on one of our use case - Maternal and
Neonatal Weekly death reports. Basically I want
sms sent to a group of users whenever a maternal
or neonatal death is reported.
First of all the two challenges I have are:
- Sending to users assigned a given user role as
opposed to sending to users in a given group. Its
easier to send to a user group as opposed to the
current design that only allows to send to users
assigned a given user role. First of all am not
sure what different authorities this role should
have. Secondary in a situation where I have no
rights to create a user role I cant implement this
like the case of Uganda national DHIS2.
So I would suggest we either add sending to a user
group.
- Ability to localize the alerts to the hierarchy;
right now we can only send alerts to a central
team otherwise it creates a lot of noise if we
send to user of lower levels for them to be
relevant. A user in districts B may not be
interested in alerts from district C would rather
only receive from his only district. But currently
if a user in District B is assigned the alert
role, he/she will receive alerts from all districts.
Regards
--
Prosper Behumbiize, MPH
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Prosper Behumbiize, MPH
Phone: +256 414 320076 <tel:%2B256%20414%20320076>
Cell: +256 772 139037 <tel:%2B256%20772%20139037>
+256 752 751776 <tel:%2B256%20752%20751776>
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Phone: +256 414 320076
Cell: +256 772 139037
+256 752 751776
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