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[Jason Pickering <jason.p.pickering@xxxxxxxxx>]

Perhaps obviously  it it also possible not to use the "default"
category as well. This essentially means that you have no categories
and would need to create separate data elements for each level of
disaggregation

Data element 1) Number of patients testing positive for disease X in phase A
Data element 2) Number of patients testing positive for disease X in phase B

Regards,
Jason


On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 10:48 PM, Dave Trombley <dave.trombley@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>
>   Ah, thanks for the informative replies!   One of
 the problems I was having
> was that I was using the latest snapshot compiled from bzr and not the
> latest release, and the data element edit screen is completely different!
> Is there a way to do this currently in the current dev. branch?  (We've
> already switched our proof-of-concept to the current release version, so
> this is making a lot more sense now following your advice and the user
> manual, which was confusing us in relation to the snapshot!)
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 3:02 PM, Ola Hodne Titlestad <olati@xxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>>
>> Dave,
>> I recommend reading the following parts of the user manual:
>> - chapter 4 on Data Elements
>> - chapter 5 on Data Sets and Forms
>> - chapter 19 - Data Dimensions in DHIS 2, especially sections 19.2 The
>> data element dimension, and section 19.8 "From paper forms to
>> multidimensional data sets - lessons learned"
>> Just to add to what Jason wrote:
>> Category combinations are linked to individual data elements, not data
>> sets or sections.
>> If your forms consists of multiple tables (with or without different
>> column headings) you can split a data set into multiple sections with _1_
>> category combination (and a subset of the dataset's data elements - all
>> sharing the same category combo) for each section. Then your section form
>> design will automatically reflect the tables/sections in your paper form
>> (given that the category options are on columns and data elements on rows).
>> If you need to design an electronic form that e.g. has data elements on
>> columns and category options on rows or combining multiple category
>> combinations on columns in the same table you need to go for custom forms.
>> Although the category combinations simplifies how you design forms I
>> recommend thinking about how the data will be used in analysis and
>> presentation after the data has been collected, e.g. how aggregation will
>> take place,  and let that guide how you design data elements and categories,
>> and not let  the data entry form structure control that. The total and
>> subtotal of data elements are used in many data analysis components (such as
>> validation rules, indicators, reports, pivot tables) and it is definitely an
>> advantage if the total of the data element's category options add up to
>> something meaningful and is not just picked to mimic column headings in a
>> form.  Many more thoughts and examples on this in section 19.8 in the
>> manual.
>> We also have some very fresh material on this topic from a recent
>> workshop, which you can find here (look under Tuesday and the session called
>> "Design of data elements and data sets"):
>> http://www.hisp.uio.no/events/201102-impl-workshop/programme2.html
>>
>> Ola
>> ---------
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------
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>> HISP
>> Department of Informatics
>> University of Oslo
>>
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>>
>> On 18 February 2011 18:02, Jason Pickering <jason.p.pickering@xxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Dave,
>>> Welcome!
>>>
>>> Its is a bit confusing to me as well. Let me try and explain as best
>>> as I can. Others that understand the model may correct me.
>>>
>>>
>>> You need to create a "Concept". In this case, it would probably
>>> "Phase" as well.
>>>
>>>  You need to create categories. In your case this would be a "Phase".
>>>
>>> You need to create category options, "Phase A" and "Phase B" for the
>>> category "Phase".
>>>
>>> You need a "Data element category combination" as well. In your case,
>>> it would be "Phases" perhaps. If the data elements is further
>>> disaggregated by categories "Age" and "Gender" you could add these
>>> categories as well.
>>>
>>> Finally , you need a data element "Number of patients testing positive
>>> for disease X"  assigned tp "Combination of categories"
>>>
>>>
>>> Hope this helps.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Jason
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 5:25 PM, Dave Trombley <dave.trombley@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >    Hi all
>>> >
>>> >      I'm new to DHIS2, and going through the process of migrating a
>>> > paper
>>> > HMIS to a DHIS2 data schema.
>>> >
>>> >      I have a tabular data structure where I can identify the data
>>> > elements,
>>> > and the categories/dimensions of those elements.  Data elements are
>>> > such as
>>> > "Number of patients testing positive for disease X" and categories are
>>> > such
>>> > as "in phase A", "in Phase B", etc.
>>> >
>>> >      I'd like the data entry form to show up with different cells to
>>> > enter
>>> > "Number of patients testing positive (in phase A)" and "Number of
>>> > patients
>>> > testing positive (in phase B)", as it seems they should if the
>>> > categories
>>> > are defined.  However, I'm having trouble making this happen.
>>> >
>>> >      The documentation at several points makes references to "assigning
>>> > a
>>> > category to a data element" but I cannot find any place where it
>>> > described
>>> > how this is done, nor can I seem to make it happen after playing with
>>> > the
>>> > interface for about an hour.  This is all very confusing, and I'm
>>> > hoping
>>> > someone can explain how it works?
>>> >
>>> >     Do I need to create a category combo?  Why are category combos I
>>> > create
>>> > not showing up in the dataset section form's "category combo" dropdown,
>>> > ever?   Do categories associate with data elements or with (groups,
>>> > sets,
>>> > datasets, dataset sections), etc?  How do all of these entities relate?
>>> >
>>> >
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