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[Dave Trombley <dave.trombley@xxxxxxxxx>]

  Ah, thanks for the informative replies!   One of the problems I was having
was that I was using the latest snapshot compiled from bzr and not the
latest release, and the data element edit screen is completely different!
Is there a way to do this currently in the current dev. branch?  (We've
already switched our proof-of-concept to the current release version, so
this is making a lot more sense now following your advice and the user
manual, which was confusing us in relation to the snapshot!)



On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 3:02 PM, Ola Hodne Titlestad <olati@xxxxxxxxxx>wrote:

> Dave,
>
> I recommend reading the following parts of the user manual:
>
> - chapter 4 on Data Elements
> - chapter 5 on Data Sets and Forms
> - chapter 19 - Data Dimensions in DHIS 2, especially sections 19.2 The data
> element dimension, and section 19.8 "From paper forms to multidimensional
> data sets - lessons learned"
>
> Just to add to what Jason wrote:
>
> Category combinations are linked to individual data elements, not data sets
> or sections.
> If your forms consists of multiple tables (with or without different column
> headings) you can split a data set into multiple sections with _1_ category
> combination (and a subset of the dataset's data elements - all sharing the
> same category combo) for each section. Then your section form design will
> automatically reflect the tables/sections in your paper form (given that the
> category options are on columns and data elements on rows).
>
> If you need to design an electronic form that e.g. has data elements on
> columns and category options on rows or combining multiple category
> combinations on columns in the same table you need to go for custom forms.
>
> Although the category combinations simplifies how you design forms I
> recommend thinking about how the data will be used in analysis and
> presentation after the data has been collected, e.g. how aggregation will
> take place,  and let that guide how you design data elements and categories,
> and not let  the data entry form structure control that. The total and
> subtotal of data elements are used in many data analysis components (such as
> validation rules, indicators, reports, pivot tables) and it is definitely an
> advantage if the total of the data element's category options add up to
> something meaningful and is not just picked to mimic column headings in a
> form.  Many more thoughts and examples on this in section 19.8 in the
> manual.
>
> We also have some very fresh material on this topic from a recent workshop,
> which you can find here (look under Tuesday and the session called "Design
> of data elements and data sets"):
> http://www.hisp.uio.no/events/201102-impl-workshop/programme2.html
>
> Ola
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> On 18 February 2011 18:02, Jason Pickering <jason.p.pickering@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>
>> Hi Dave,
>> Welcome!
>>
>> Its is a bit confusing to me as well. Let me try and explain as best
>> as I can. Others that understand the model may correct me.
>>
>>
>> You need to create a "Concept". In this case, it would probably
>> "Phase" as well.
>>
>>  You need to create categories. In your case this would be a "Phase".
>>
>> You need to create category options, "Phase A" and "Phase B" for the
>> category "Phase".
>>
>> You need a "Data element category combination" as well. In your case,
>> it would be "Phases" perhaps. If the data elements is further
>> disaggregated by categories "Age" and "Gender" you could add these
>> categories as well.
>>
>> Finally , you need a data element "Number of patients testing positive
>> for disease X"  assigned tp "Combination of categories"
>>
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Jason
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 5:25 PM, Dave Trombley <dave.trombley@xxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >    Hi all
>> >
>> >      I'm new to DHIS2, and going through the process of migrating a
>> paper
>> > HMIS to a DHIS2 data schema.
>> >
>> >      I have a tabular data structure where I can identify the data
>> elements,
>> > and the categories/dimensions of those elements.  Data elements are such
>> as
>> > "Number of patients testing positive for disease X" and categories are
>> such
>> > as "in phase A", "in Phase B", etc.
>> >
>> >      I'd like the data entry form to show up with different cells to
>> enter
>> > "Number of patients testing positive (in phase A)" and "Number of
>> patients
>> > testing positive (in phase B)", as it seems they should if the
>> categories
>> > are defined.  However, I'm having trouble making this happen.
>> >
>> >      The documentation at several points makes references to "assigning
>> a
>> > category to a data element" but I cannot find any place where it
>> described
>> > how this is done, nor can I seem to make it happen after playing with
>> the
>> > interface for about an hour.  This is all very confusing, and I'm hoping
>> > someone can explain how it works?
>> >
>> >     Do I need to create a category combo?  Why are category combos I
>> create
>> > not showing up in the dataset section form's "category combo" dropdown,
>> > ever?   Do categories associate with data elements or with (groups,
>> sets,
>> > datasets, dataset sections), etc?  How do all of these entities relate?
>> >
>> >
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