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[Raphael Pundo <rpundo@xxxxxxxxx>]

Dear Arthur,

Below are some of responses:


   - do you have a set of indicators using HR data within the DHIS2 ?

Yes we a set of HR Indicators in the DHIS that are being tracked.
Similarly, there are HR/Service delivery indicators

   - are you able to do bottleneck analysis for UNICEF?

So far, there had NOT been any request from UNICEF on bottleneck analysis

   - If yes, where do you source the commodity data ?

Regards,
Raphael


On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 1:04 PM, Arthur Heywood <arthurheywood@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

> Raphael
> This is a good best practice that you are using a shared facility list and
> then have the two softwares talking to each other ......
> My next question is about what you (and other countries) are DOING with
> the combined HR and DHIS data once you have got the technology talking?...
>
>    - do you have a set of indicators using HR data within the DHIS2 ?
>    - are you able to do bottleneck analysis for UNICEF?
>    - If yes, where do you source the commodity data ?
>
> Anyone with some implementation cases using HR data ??
>
>    - workload... SA
>    - ???
>
> Regards
> Arthur
> On Tuesday, 11 October 2016, Raphael Pundo <rpundo@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> All,
>> In case on is interested, Kenya has integrated the iHRIS (Aggregate Data)
>> with DHIS2 using  the Master Facility List Code as the Primary Key. I can
>> provide more info
>>
>> Regards
>> Raphael
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 8:49 AM, Arthur Heywood <arthurheywood@xxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Prosper
>>> good to know .....
>>> BUT
>>> On the other hand, this is a great example of not thinking about USE of
>>> data ..... UNICEF is  proposing bottleneck analysis that needs HR data ...
>>> yet there is no  automatically  genersted quality / usable HR data in one
>>> place ......
>>>
>>> Sounds like we need to quickly sit down and start to get aggregated data
>>> directly out of IHRIS so we can make bottleneck analysis ..... I hope this
>>> January workshop will provide this opportunity
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> A
>>>
>>> On Saturday, 8 October 2016, Prosper BT <ptb3000@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Arthur,
>>>>
>>>> For bottleneck analysis using HR indicators/data element, HISP Uganda
>>>> with UNICEF support use aggregate HR DHIS2 dataset, we have not managed to
>>>> integrate iHRS data yet.
>>>>
>>>> [image: Inline image 1]
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>>>> On Sat, Oct 8, 2016 at 8:17 AM, Arthur Heywood <arthurheywood@xxxxxxxxx
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Carl
>>>>> We do not need detailed data .... what was described as "core HRHIS"
>>>>> is more than good enough .... aggregate data with no details so that we can
>>>>> do workload indicators, Bottleneck analysis etc within DHIS, using imported
>>>>> data
>>>>> I would really like to see this in practice somewhere .... any ideas
>>>>> where this integration is actually working already?
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Arthur
>>>>>
>>>>> *****Without deviation from the norm, there can be no progress***
>>>>> *(Frank Zappa)*
>>>>> *Skype* arthur_heywood_za
>>>>> Tanzania* +255-773669393 OR +255 673150252
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5 October 2016 at 14:56, Carl Leitner <litlfred@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey Arthur,
>>>>>> Let me know if you would like to talk about this.  If you are keen on
>>>>>> doing everything in DHSI2 (rather than an separate HRIS system, such as
>>>>>> iHRIS) then there are some existing standard data models for health worker
>>>>>> information that it would be good to model your data elements after.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are you looking more for the aggregate number of HWs or do you need
>>>>>> information on the HWs themselves?
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> -carl
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Oct 4, 2016, at 4:20 PM, Calle Hedberg <calle.hedberg@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Arthur,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not directly involved with the HRIS work using DHIS, my current
>>>>>> focus is on a fully integrated disease surveillance system. Will find out
>>>>>> and get back to you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> Calle
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4 October 2016 at 15:15, Arthur Heywood <arthurheywood@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Calle
>>>>>>> In Zambia we are also looking to set up what you call a "core" Human
>>>>>>> Resource HMIS ... mainly to do some "Bottleneck analysis" for our MDGi
>>>>>>> districts ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Are we able to use a beta version and see what we are able to adapt
>>>>>>> it to our needs (same people being called different professional jobs  etc)
>>>>>>>  and then feed back into the development process ....interesting to know
>>>>>>> how far you have progressed?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *****Without deviation from the norm, there can be no progress***
>>>>>>> *(Frank Zappa)*
>>>>>>> *Skype* arthur_heywood_za
>>>>>>> Tanzania* +255-773669393 OR +255 673150252
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 26 August 2016 at 23:08, Calle Hedberg <calle.hedberg@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Laura,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The two main HRIS component designs "within" DHIS2 are the HRHIS in
>>>>>>>> Tanzania and another in Vietnam (John Lewis or Morten will be able to tell
>>>>>>>> you more about that one).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> South Africa is currently using a customised Tracker app for
>>>>>>>> managing Community Service and Internships (around 10,000 graduates are
>>>>>>>> applying for internship or Community Service posts per annum).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We are also working on a "core" workforce registry tightly
>>>>>>>> integrated with DHIS2. By "core" I mean it will only deal with actual HR
>>>>>>>> resources including position, what they are licensed/authorised to do, and
>>>>>>>> contact details. Things like continuous education, bursaries, payroll, etc
>>>>>>>> are processed/managed by other systems. A major advantage of tight
>>>>>>>> integration will be the ability to use DHIS2 communication and messages +
>>>>>>>> user registration to communicate directly with health workers - in
>>>>>>>> particular since health workers increasingly will be interacting directly
>>>>>>>> with DHIS2 on a daily basis through (daily) capturing of routine data,
>>>>>>>> disease notifications, various Tracker apps (browser or Android), etc.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Your basic requirements seem very similar: your primary need is to
>>>>>>>> track the workforce as an INPUT RESOURCE to health service delivery, and
>>>>>>>> not to track salaries and CVs and health insurance and employment history
>>>>>>>> and a bunch of other "personal" things. So you need to know WHO they are,
>>>>>>>> where they actually work and with what (in what position), what they are
>>>>>>>> able to do (mostly this relates to formal/legal practice licensing etc, but
>>>>>>>> it could be expanded to include specialist knowledge about certain diseases
>>>>>>>> etc), and how to contact them.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>> Calle
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 26 August 2016 at 21:56, gerald thomas <gerald17006@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I had use ihris and it is good. If you want help with it I am
>>>>>>>>> willing to help.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Aug 26, 2016 6:46 PM, "Laura E. Lincks" <
>>>>>>>>> laura.lincks@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We are looking for a simple Human Resources tool to integrate
>>>>>>>>>> with a DHIS aggregate database. Little is known of the needs of the HRIS,
>>>>>>>>>> but for now it needs to track personnel details and groups of personnel
>>>>>>>>>> will need to be associated with various programs in a separate DHIS
>>>>>>>>>> aggregate database. An Open Source HRIS is preferable.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In searching for tools I have come across the following:
>>>>>>>>>> HRHIS <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HRHIS>in Tanzania developed
>>>>>>>>>> by the HISP-TZ/University of Dar es Salaam
>>>>>>>>>> iHRIS <http://www.ihris.org/> developed by global Capacity
>>>>>>>>>> Project.​
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I was wondering if anyone had any knowledge of or experience with
>>>>>>>>>> these packages or if there were other applications that could be of use to
>>>>>>>>>> us?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance to anyone with leads or information.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *Laura E. Lincks*
>>>>>>>>>> Database Manager/Developer
>>>>>>>>>> ICAP - Columbia University
>>>>>>>>>> Mailman School of Public Health
>>>>>>>>>> 60 Haven Ave, Floor B1
>>>>>>>>>> New York, NY 10032
>>>>>>>>>> Tel: 212 304 7132
>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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>>>>
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