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[Rico Tzschichholz <ricotz@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Setting the size to 0 is fairly the same as having them disabled. So I
don't really see the need in such an extra key, although adding one is
easy. If you insist please file an elementary-tagged bug.

Rico

Am 20.09.2012 01:49, schrieb Daniel Foré:
> Well the idea is that our default apps already more-or-less behave like
> this and we're kind of pushing 3rd party devs to follow along.
> 
> But it sounds like overall there is a pretty strong desire for the
> option to re-enable them for now. Which I think is 100% fair considering
> we're in the very beginnings of this transition period.
> 
> Rico, would it be terribly difficult to add a key to enable/disable the
> running indicators instead of relying on setting their size to 0?
> 
> On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Craig <weberc2@xxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:weberc2@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> 
>     Isn't that kind of like pulling all street signs/traffic lights in
>     excited anticipation for the day when cars have traffic data
>     projected onto the windshield via HUD?
> 
> 
>     On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Sam Tate <s@xxxxxxxxxxx
>     <mailto:s@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> 
>         In the long run (L+1 or even L+2), I want there to be no
>         difference between an open and closed app. Computers are fast
>         enough now (esp. with Luna) that you don't really notice the
>         extra delay when you open an app rather than restoring from
>         Minimize.
>         I also want apps to save their state for when you re-open them,
>         and for the system (not the user) to handle memory management.
> 
>         However, these are things that need not be addressed now, and I
>         will go into in more detail (probably with a blog post) closer
>         to the time.
> 
>         For now, I much prefer the removal of indicators as it moves us
>         towards this vision.
> 
>         SamTate
> 
> 
>         On 19 September 2012 00:39, ttosttos Sa <ttosttos@xxxxxxxxx
>         <mailto:ttosttos@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> 
>             +1 on running app indicators unless a simple, _mouse only_
>             expose for app windows is available (e.g. long hover over
>             dock icon exposing running screens).  There are useful apps
>             that don't support tabs and, even for those that do, you may
>             still want to run multiple windows with different parameters
>             (e.g. a browser with private and non-private settings).
>              Switching focus to a particular instance of an app is a bit
>             involved today.
> 
>             --ttosttos
> 
>             On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 9:02 AM, Daniel Foré
>             <daniel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:daniel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>             wrote:
> 
>                 Hey Guys,
> 
>                 I've seen a few mails/reports about the current lack of
>                 running app indicators in Luna. I wanted to get a feel
>                 for how people who have been using Luna for a while feel
>                 about it. Namely, is this something people are
>                 complaining about because they expect it and aren't used
>                 to it yet, or is this a real problem?
> 
>                 Personally, I don't miss them at all. I haven't used
>                 them for almost a year now (When Gala was just a dream
>                 haha). Luna is so good on resources that it hardly
>                 matters if an app is open or not and you can easily see
>                 if something is open from Gala's Workspace Overview
>                 since minimize isn't part of our regular workflow. But
>                 it also has the added benefit of saving a few pixels on
>                 the bottom of the dock (since our OOTB default is
>                 hide-on-maximize and not intelli or autohide I think
>                 keep the dock small is still important).
> 
>                 If we do decide that running app indicators are
>                 important, would it be terribly difficult to make this a
>                 switch in the desktop plug? We may need to ask Rico to
>                 add a key for this since I think we wouldn't want to
>                 have this update for every user on the system (since the
>                 theming is currently stored globally). Because I do
>                 think that there are probably a significant amount of
>                 people for which the running indicators just aren't
>                 terribly useful in Luna and it could still remain as the
>                 default. But hey, that's why I am asking!
> 
>                 Best Regards,
> 
>                 Daniel Foré
> 
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