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["Sergey \"Shnatsel\" Davidoff" <sergey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I'd use ellipsising only for items that do not instantly accomplish the
advertised action.
For example, "Import to library" in Noise should be ellipsised because it
additionally requires the user to specify the import source. Following this
logic, "Preferences" and "About" should not be ellipsised because they
accomplish the advertised action, i.e. take you to the advertised info or
controls, without any intermediate steps.

2013/3/24 Alfredo Hernández <aldomann.designs@xxxxxxxxx>

> I think that Preferences and About do not need ellipses as their function
> is quite obvious. You perfectly know what to expect when you click those.
>
> Regards, Alfredo.
> On 24 Mar 2013 00:55, "Cassidy James" <cassidy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Hrm, I thought all of our apps did that for Preferences and About.
>>
>> One thing I've read somewhere (perhaps another platform's HIG?) was more
>> explicit in that if there's not really an action to be performed in the
>> dialog, to not display the ellipsis. In fact, our own HIG are slightly more
>> nuanced than mentioned above; they say to use an ellipsis if an *action
>> is performed *in a new window or dialog. With the about dialog, there's
>> arguably no action being performed. What about with Preferences?
>>
>> I'm up for clarifying these cases in the HIG. Fellow designers, let me
>> know what you think.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Cassidy James
>>
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>>
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 6:45 PM, Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff <
>> sergey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Okay, so all our apps are buggy and should be fixed?
>>>
>>> Also, what about "About"?
>>>
>>> 2013/3/24 Julien Spautz <spautz.julien@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>
>>>> Actually, the HIG says we should use ellipses for preferences:
>>>>
>>>> · Is performed in a new window or dialog. For example, Preferences,
>>>> Report a Problem, and Customize Toolbar all use ellipses because they open
>>>> a new window…
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://elementaryos.org/docs/human-interface-guidelines/text/using-ellipses
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 12:27 AM, Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff <
>>>> sergey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hey guys,
>>>>
>>>> I've notices Noise doesn't use ellipsising for AppMenu items at all:
>>>> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/5279564/noise-appmenu.png
>>>> "Import to Library" requires further input from the user but it doesn't
>>>> have an ellipsis. I believe this is a bug?
>>>>
>>>> I've looked at how other apps use ellipsising and it's mostly
>>>> reasonable. The only thing that bugs me is that "Preferences" and "About"
>>>> items don't have ellipses. I recall Windows just eliipsising whatever shows
>>>> a dialog, but common sense suggests it's not a good idea, e.g. for About,
>>>> because it doesn't require any further input from the user. I'm not sure
>>>> about Preferences though.
>>>>
>>>> So what's our rule of thumb for ellipsising? We don't seem to have any
>>>> info on the topic in the HIG.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff
>>>> OS architect @ elementary
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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