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Re: The future of appcenter


The first decision needs to be "What is AppCenter?" Is it going to be an
App Store or is it going to be just an App Center as it is now? That
decision changes the course of the project forever. An AppStore is a huge
undertaking that should be planned now.

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 5:51 AM, Joshua Strobl <truthfromlies@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:

> As I said, these decisions need to be a group consensus. We're not going
> to be the next Canonical.
> On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 5:49 AM, Goncalo Margalho <g@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> If you do everything on your own deciding everything, there's no need to
> follow that.
> Saying that. Good luck with the AppCenter ;)
> On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Joshua Strobl <truthfromlies@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>> There is a limiting factor on what we can implement from third parties.
>> For instance, with Ubuntu Reviews API, we (along with everyone else) has
>> read-only access, therefore we are not able to apply our own ratings and
>> reviews (obviously a write process). This is already going to be covered in
>> the API, I'll be pushing out code by the end of the week (hopefully) that
>> will handle a portion of this.
>> The general idea is to either completely pull all the reviews / ratings
>> from Ubuntu, pretty much regarding every application (although I'd prefer
>> we only limit to applications that are actually popular) and store them in
>> our own database. This will ensure that any breaking changes that occur in
>> Ubuntu's Reviews API do not affect AppCenter, since the reviews are stored
>> with us anyways. Another idea would be to continue pulling reviews /
>> ratings from Ubuntu's Reviews API and only store reviews / ratings by
>> elementary OS users.
>> It is really up to group consensus. This isn't so much about rewriting
>> things, its more like leveraging existing APIs to get a good jumpstart on
>> an AppCenter.
>> I would appreciate if you'd follow
>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/appcenter/+bug/1091406, as I'll be posting
>> details, potentially initial JSON formatted string files (for showing how
>> some of the data will be structured when being requested via an HTTP
>> Request) and at some point I'll link to the repo for the API.
>> - Joshua Strobl
>> On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 3:29 AM, Goncalo Margalho <g@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>> So we are going to rewrite it? Why in linux community people like to
>> rewrite things? We need to plan stuff to work on in and then implement.
>> Here, everyone likes just to implement. Why dont we think about the future.
>> Use our brains to build something that it will stay like this?
>> On Mar 26, 2013 10:07 AM, "Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff" <
>> sergey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> 2013/3/26 Goncalo Margalho <g@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> I think that the AppCenter now is just a wrapper of packagekit, i mean,
>>>> instead of using apt you use AppCenter, how do you add reviews? paying apps
>>>> etc?
>>> No, it's not. PackageKit API does not provide application screenshots,
>>> for example. They're fetched on-demand from
>>> http://screenshots.ubuntu.com/ or http://screenshots.debian.org/(they're the same website anyway).
>>> As for paid apps, there's a staggering number of possibilities. Ideally
>>> we'd use something distribution- and vendor-independent, and I have a few
>>> ideas on how to achieve that. But IMO it's too early to discuss
>>> implementing paid apps yet. We'll design the architecture for that when we
>>> get there.
>>> --
>>> Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff
>>> OS architect @ elementary
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